Stagger Lee (Anonymous Poster) • 4 years 5 month(s) ago- hide
Really good piece that puts evidence to the forefront rather than opinion.
This approach really works well for some of the candidates on here such as Daboll, who you have to look at in terms of what he's achieved with replacement level guys.
The angle that is missing from a lot of potential HC articles is their actual management ability, can they scale up from a coordinator to an actual leadership position or are they really a navigator/co-pilot sort. George Edwards is the one candidate in that piece where he may struggle as opposed to Saleh who dominates his sideline and displays excellent communication ability.
@Stagger Lee obviously the management portion is sort of a wildcard in this, it is hard to know how a coach will respond to commanding an entire roster of guys, rather than just a position group or unit. Supposedly, the management aspect of things is why Pete Carmichael, OC for New Orleans, hasn't gotten job offers. That said, from the outside, it is difficult to really evaluate this sort of thing, so I mostly took into account how each coach has fared on the field.
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DabollHAHA (Anonymous Poster) • 4 years 5 month(s) ago- hide
@DabollHAHA yeah, obviously Rhule and Fitzgerald are very esteemed college coaches who have achieved great turnarounds with their programs. Pat Fitzgerald, in particular, is really a great defensive innovator in my view. That being said, I get the sense that each of Rhule and Fitzgerald are content remaining in their positions on the college level -- I would have wrote them up if I felt there was a legitimately high chance that they go to the NFL.
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saa (Anonymous Poster) • 4 years 5 month(s) ago- hide
Even though his time is probably not here yet, Brian Ferentz of Iowa deserves to be mentioned. He had has notable NFL exp because he created the two TE beast of Gronkowski and Hernandez in NE as TE coach. As OC at Iowa, he constantly produces top OL and TE NFL talent from the recruiting scrap heap. Has a strong resume despite being so young.
@saa certainly I think that Brian Ferentz in one of the most successful young offensive minds in all of football. His work with Rob Gronkowski, Aaron Hernandez, Riley Reiff, Brandon Scherff, James Daniels, Noah Fant, and TJ Hockenson is certainly very impressive. If he adds to his resume a bit more in the next few seasons, I'm sure he'll be in this conversation sometime soon -- there's always a market out there for innovative offensive minds who make the most out of their personnel.
@Seahawks Analytics personally I believe that the Seahawks are succeeding in spite of Brian Schottenheimer. He's a very run-heavy offensive coordinator in a pass-happy league with a really good quarterback, and while I'm a fan of his schematics on a play-by-play basis I don't trust him to put together sequences and gameplans for less-talented offensive units.
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JYY (Anonymous Poster) • 4 years 5 month(s) ago- hide
@JYY Eric Bieniemy is an interesting candidate, but his experience is as a runningback and as a runningbacks coach, his only playcalling experience was two years at Colorado under esteemed offensive mind Jon Embree, and he has a potentially-problematic past. I could see him getting interviews, but I struggle to see him actually getting an offer, especially with Matt Nagy's questionable tenure.
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1245 (Anonymous Poster) • 4 years 5 month(s) ago- hide
"with WR Zay Jones' big-play ability" said no one ever.
Urban Meyer is a great college coach, but he is not suited for the NFL. His offense is really not suited for the NFL and he's got health concerns.
Also, you missed Eric Bienemy the OC for the Chiefs.
