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Mr. Bitter 313 Posts (472 )
1 years 7 month(s) ago - hide

I think you're understating the Jalen Carter situation. There's evidence that he was much more than just "involved" in the incident.

There was damage to the roof of Carter's vehicle likely caused by the pole that was struck by the deceased, which means he was likely in close proximity of the crash.

So he stumbles out of a strip club drunk as a skunk at 2 AM and proceeds to street race in a high traffic area, leading to a fatal crash that he may well have been partially to blame for. Then instead of calling 911 for his dying friend, he flees the scene, not returning until ordered to do so. Then he gives an inaccurate account to authorities.

All this on the heels of being sited twice for excessive speeding in that same area just months before.

Then he shows up to his Pro Day 20 lbs. heavier than at the Combine, sloppily lazes his way through bag drills, gets gassed, then quits. This from a prospect that already had conditioning/self-motivation red flags visible from space and was relatively unproductive in college.

This is the guy at #5 overall?

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The Champ 80 Posts (19 )
1 years 7 month(s) ago - hide
@Mr. Bitter I have him going 5th in one of my mocks too, and I'll be interested to see what his O/U in betting markets is, especially as draft day approaches.  It doesn't seem likely that he's going to be charged with any felonies, from what I understand, if he's charged with anything at all.  Still, I agree with what you said, that character issues overall are going to be an issue for many teams.  For example, I don't think Detroit would even consider him at 6.  But Seattle is one of those teams that we've seen take chances on high-upside guys with character issues.  If they pass on him, who knows how far he could fall.  Philly loves DL prospects, so would they roll the dice on him a year after getting Jordan Davis, figuring that they have another 1st rounder later?  
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Mr. Bitter 313 Posts (472 )
1 years 7 month(s) ago - hide

@The Champ 

Yeah, I can't see DET drafting Carter. Not at #6 anyway.

I seriously doubt SEA will be interested. They seem to be putting more emphasis on dependable, high-character players judging by their last few free agency periods and last year's draft crop. They also signed two capable DTs in Dre'mont Jones and Jarran Reed, and may still resign Poona Ford. They need a clogger like Mazi Smith, Keeanu Benton, or Cameron Young. Day 2 guys.

I'd bet my pinkie that Carter doesn't go top 10. That Pro Day alone was a stock killer. I mean, it was embarrassing. I don't care how many "sources" insist he's still going top 10. They were also saying Malik Willis was in play at #2 this time last year.

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