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Mr. Bitter 555 Posts (405 )
1 day(s) 5 hour(s) ago
You say Round 14 is reserved for your final skill position player...a "super-high-upside long shot". Who are some guys that fit the description that you like? I'm keeping my eye on Woody Marks, 
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Mr. Bitter 555 Posts (405 )
3 day(s) 17 hour(s) ago

@Osmodiar 

Agree on Allar. Not a 1st round prospect.

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Mr. Bitter 555 Posts (405 )
3 day(s) 17 hour(s) ago

@Osmodiar 

I think it depends on what the CLE front office/coaching staff looks like by draft day, and whether the Browns address the offensive supporting cast by then. As you mentioned in an earlier comment, the Browns interior O-line needs rebuilding. (I would add that LT is still a problem, as Dawand Jones should be at RT.)

If the Mannings are convinced that a new CLE brain trust has a plan, then why not the Browns for Arch? If Arch is the real deal, then he might embrace the idea of carving out his own legacy in CLE.

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Mr. Bitter 555 Posts (405 )
3 day(s) 17 hour(s) ago

@Osmodiar 

Not sure about that. NO is a directionless organization and the pressure of following in Archie's footsteps isn't necessarily a positive. 

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Osmodiar 16 Posts (2 )
3 day(s) 20 hour(s) ago
@Mr. Bitter Arch probably would declare if he knew NO would have the first pick.
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Osmodiar 16 Posts (2 )
3 day(s) 20 hour(s) ago
I'd rather see the Browns take Downs at 3 than take a risk on a DE. Downs will be a star.
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Osmodiar 16 Posts (2 )
3 day(s) 20 hour(s) ago

I think Jimmy Haslam, a Southern guy, will throw all his chips in to get Arch Manning, a Southern guy. Haslam has an obsession with overriding the front office on QB decisions.

But will Manning (the Mannings?) pull an Elway/Eli and say Arch will not play for Cleveland?

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kaumy1 2 Posts (1 )
5 day(s) 1 hour(s) ago
Not sure where you are hearing Kenneth Walker could be traded mid season. Mc Donald wants to run the ball,, and while Walker has had trouble staying healthy,, this is his year to shine.
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Mr. Bitter 555 Posts (405 )
6 day(s) 16 hour(s) ago

@cb8518846 

Out of curiosity, why do you think Tampa will be in play for Arch in '27? Jason Licht has given every indication that the Bucs will extend Mayfield. TB is a stable organization with solid foundational pieces and an explosive offense with a good, young O-line and should still be stacked with playmakers if the post-Godwin/Evans era comes sooner than expected. I'd say it's more likely that the '27 draft will have teams like MIA, CLE, TEN, SF, NO and maybe even DAL batting at the top of the order.

Your ARI call is interesting. They could easily move on from Kyler if he continues to under-perform and get hurt. Still, the Cards have a talented young roster. I can't see them bottoming out so quickly. 

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cb8518846 dl.Comment..UserAccount.CommentCount Posts (0)
8 day(s) 6 hour(s) ago
Last i heard, Arch wasnt going to declare for the '26 draft,so both New Orleans and the Giants,assuming Dart shits the bed like i expect him to,will be SOL in getting Arch,who in '27 is more likely to go to Tampa or Arizona 
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Mr. Bitter 555 Posts (405 )
13 day(s) 16 hour(s) ago

@WFDevTeam 

Not sure there's a franchise QB in this crop anyway. (Assuming Arch doesn't declare.) Maybe Sellers. I don't see it with Nussmeier. Pedigree and nice arm, but he's light as a feather and throws mucho picks vs. better competition.

The Jets QB in 2026 will be Daniel Jones or Anthony Richardson. Book it.

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Mr. Bitter 555 Posts (405 )
13 day(s) 17 hour(s) ago

@Charlie Campbell 

Given the fact that Manning QBs have historically stayed until their Sr. years and Arch's relative inexperience, I can understand omitting Arch from this mock draft. I also believe that Sellers could emerge as the top prize (with Fernando Mendoza a darkhorse), as guys like Nussmeier (undersized/iffy decision-maker) and Klubnik (questionable arm) might be closer to Day 2 than top-of-the-draft prospects. 

I personally think TEN remains the least-talented team in the NFL (they're STILL talking up Treylon Burks lol) and will again bat leadoff in the '26 Draft. (Cam Ward will be a bust, but TEN won't pull the plug after just one season.) If I'm right, CLE has to be the front-runner to move up to 1.01, regardless of Berry's history. Also of note: Chances are good that Berry will be unemployed by the time the '26 Draft rolls around. Any new regime's top priority will be ending the decades-long shit show at QB.

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WFDevTeam 99 Posts (28 )
13 day(s) 17 hour(s) ago
@Mr. Bitter That is the kind of team assessment that resonates as inevitable truth.
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Mr. Bitter 555 Posts (405 )
13 day(s) 17 hour(s) ago
The Jets will win just enough games to fall out of range for a franchise QB. It's what they do.
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jrkloster 11 Posts (7 )
15 day(s) 13 hour(s) ago
@Charlie Campbell If the Browns pick in the top 4 I guarantee they take a QB.  Several teams passed on Mahomes.  And you're using Wentz and Watson as proof?  Ouch.  Passing on Watson wasn't the error the Browns made, trading for him was.  And Wentz was a bust.
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Mr. Bitter 555 Posts (405 )
16 day(s) 17 hour(s) ago
Those "easy" games against SEA, NO, TB, NYG, CLE and IND are on the road, where SF was 2-6 last season. McCaffrey and Trent Williams might be shot. The defense is nothing but question marks beyond Bosa and Warner. Not sure why everyone is assuming a bounceback year from SF.
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Mr. Bitter 555 Posts (405 )
16 day(s) 17 hour(s) ago

@Mr. Football  

The Cowboys are a bit of a mess. Pickens isn't going to behave himself. He's a WR2 who thinks he's an alpha. He's a meltdown waiting to happen.

Another weak head coaching hire.

The Prescott contract is an albatross.

DAL has no running game and no run defense.

The secondary is a problem. 

Tough schedule. The Cowboys could easily be 2-7 going into their bye.

DAL might finish last place in the NFC East.

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Charlie Campbell dl.Comment..UserAccount.CommentCount Posts (0)
26 day(s) 13 hour(s) ago

I got an email from a reader and was asked to respond to you guys. 

There is buzz about Manning going back to Texas for 2026, but it's fluid, and players go back and forth on the decision every year. Thus, it's definitely too early to make any firm judments. 

As for the Browns, they went 1-15 in 2016, and Andrew Berry was part of the braintrust that passed on Trubisky, Pat Mahomes and Deshaun Watson for a DE with the No. 1 overall pick. They passed on Watson twice in that draft and could have moved up a few spots from pick 12 for Mahomes after taking Garrett. So they realistically passed on Mahomes twice. The year before, he was part of the braintrust that passed on Carson Wentz after going 3-13. Based on his track record, taking a QB is not a guarantee. 

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deleteduser dl.Comment..UserAccount.CommentCount Posts (0)
26 day(s) 16 hour(s) ago
Here's hoping it's Detroits year.
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JRO60 14 Posts (8 )
1 month(s) 0 day(s) ago
Hmmm. Took Arch off the board for 7/7. What are you hearing?
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jrkloster 11 Posts (7 )
1 month(s) 6 day(s) ago

"The Browns finished with a 2-15 record, and do you know why?  Because of the defensive line and the secondary"

-No one ever

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JRO60 14 Posts (8 )
1 month(s) 8 day(s) ago
The Texans did make a change at OC and OL coach which may help. They also changed scheme for the last month of the season which help just a bit. It sounds like Tunsil, who never practiced on Wednesday, and Mason, who was terrible last year, were bad locker room guys so a change had to be made. I'll go with 10-7 until they do better than 10-7.
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WFDevTeam 99 Posts (28 )
1 month(s) 11 day(s) ago

You nailed the 76ers at three.  Sorry didn't see this until today.  Next year we'll formalize a process for promoting some reader mocks on the main site.

Thanks for contributing.

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WFDevTeam 99 Posts (28 )
1 month(s) 18 day(s) ago

I can't help but root for underdogs but this series just cookied.  OKC has more than earned it which is how its supposed to be.  As much fun as it is for underdogs to surprise us it wouldn't be right if the better teams didn't close the deal more often than not.

  
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WFDevTeam 99 Posts (28 )
1 month(s) 23 day(s) ago
@WFDevTeam OK Turner sucks actually
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WFDevTeam 99 Posts (28 )
1 month(s) 24 day(s) ago
I like the Thunder tonight but I think Indiana is good enough win this.  Back in my day it was about your big three.  Haliburton, Siakam, and Turner feels very much in the same weight class as SGA, Holmgren, and Williams.  They may not score as much but look a bit closer and they score a bit more efficiently.  This 2-1 lead by Indiana may not be the fluke people think it is.
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jrkloster 11 Posts (7 )
1 month(s) 24 day(s) ago

"They have to at some point if Shedeur Sanders doesn’t live up to expectations"  If they have the 3rd worst record in the NFL, I can't see how Sanders would have "lived up to expectations"

The pick will be a QB.

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v2micca 3 Posts (2 )
1 month(s) 27 day(s) ago
i don't know why so many are convinced that Arch Manning will declare for the 2026 Draft.  He is currently making more NIL money than he will likely make in the first year of his rookie deal.  So, there is absolutely no reason for him to rush to the NFL, particularly if he is enjoying his College experience and if his handlers feel he needs an extra year of starting at College to prepare him for the NFL.  
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WFDevTeam 99 Posts (28 )
1 month(s) 29 day(s) ago
I like pacers to cover again.  I think they may do better tonight.  Less nerves.  Getting used tk OKC’s length.  
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WFDevTeam 99 Posts (28 )
2 month(s) 2 day(s) ago
In a world where everything is rigged I'll take the 10 points in the opening game of a series that the league would like to go longer than expected if possible
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jvkeb 5 Posts (2 )
2 month(s) 3 day(s) ago
brady to maye like montana to young
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Walter 148 Posts (153 )
2 month(s) 10 day(s) ago
@mb365yo LOL exposed how? She's the one who got mad that I pointed out that she helped ruin Around the Horn
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marzelsimmons dl.Comment..UserAccount.CommentCount Posts (0)
2 month(s) 10 day(s) ago
I think Caleb Downs might be the best defensive player in the nation and there’s definitely not a better Saftey in the nation. Suprised to see you have Sabb going over him. Dont get me wrong Sabb is good but hes not Downs 
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JRO60 14 Posts (8 )
2 month(s) 11 day(s) ago
Jackson Arnold has transferred to Auburn, for now.
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jrkloster 11 Posts (7 )
2 month(s) 11 day(s) ago
Again, if the Browns have the 3rd (or 4th?) worst record in football it won't be because of OL or DL play, it will be QB.  And that would be the pick.  To use a high draft pick on yet another DL is just insane.
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jrkloster 11 Posts (7 )
2 month(s) 11 day(s) ago
If the Browns are picking in the top 3 they will be choosing a QB.  A DL?  That's insane seeing as they have Garrett and used a top 5 pick last year on a DL.
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Osmodiar 16 Posts (2 )
2 month(s) 12 day(s) ago

Would like to see Cleveland somehow get Caleb Downs, he's going to be a great pro. Would've been a top 10 pick in this recent draft. They already have safeties though, maybe they could use him in nickel packages. Greg Newsome won't be back in 2026, one way or the other.

Otherwise Cleveland needs interior OL. Their guards are expensive and Bitonio is getting old. Teller will be 31 during the 26 season. Would've been nice to trade Bitonio before the draft. I'm not sure Zak Zinter is developing.

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Mr. Football 26 Posts (1 )
2 month(s) 12 day(s) ago
Imjo- 7 game series. With the home teams winning in the West- In the East the opposite the road teams in 7- just my two cents worth 
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mb365yo 1 Posts (1 )
2 month(s) 16 day(s) ago
Your fat, crooked-faced, faggot ass got exposed by Mina Kimes. ?? Kill yourself.
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Nagurski 4 Posts (5 )
2 month(s) 16 day(s) ago
Nice pass on NY/IND last night Walt. No matter who you were playing, you had to be suffering at some point, maybe at many points. Some games are good entertainment but bad bats.
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Mr. Football 26 Posts (1 )
2 month(s) 19 day(s) ago
Walt-Imho I think Arch Manning will take his Uncle Eli's plan to the NFL- Imho I think Arch will play 3 years at Texas and declare for the NFL Draft in 2028. I do agree with your assessment regarding the quarterback class for 2026 and that the Saints- Steelers- Jets and Raiders  will draft quarterbacks.  I can see the Rams drafting their next franchise quarterback in 2027 class just my 2 cents worth 
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broncoselway 8 Posts (2 )
2 month(s) 21 day(s) ago
You should be a big Bo Nix fan what is wrong with you? What will it take for you to come over to the dark side?
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WFDevTeam 99 Posts (28 )
2 month(s) 22 day(s) ago

@cbernd 

I probably botched it on the entry...looking into this now.  Thanks for the heads up

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Mr. Football 26 Posts (1 )
2 month(s) 23 day(s) ago
Walt- I've got a bad feeling that the Nuggets will win tonight- Imho- Russell Westbrook will be playing out of his mind against his old team- to extend the series to the 7th game in OKC to determine which team plays the dangerous Timberwolves in the Western Conference Championship. Maybe just maybe the Thunder will finally play like the best team in the NBA tonight 
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cbernd dl.Comment..UserAccount.CommentCount Posts (0)
2 month(s) 23 day(s) ago
Ya might want to change the verbiage for the Solid Starter section.  It's all referring to the Cardinals and Walter Nolen. 
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jrkloster 11 Posts (7 )
2 month(s) 24 day(s) ago
So the Browns finish with the 3rd (or 4th?) worse record in the NFL with no QB and you have them taking a tackle and a CB.  Can't emphasize enough that it will be a QB (if they are picking this high0
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Mr. Football 26 Posts (1 )
2 month(s) 25 day(s) ago
I watch the game- finally okc showed what they're made of. Though they didn't cover the won a hard fought game coming from behind. Now Walt hopefully the Thunder can put the Nuggets away for good on Thursday nite in the Mile High City to advance to Western Conference Championship game and then move on to the NBA Championship game 
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Mr. Football 26 Posts (1 )
2 month(s) 25 day(s) ago
I  wholeheartedly agree Walt- the Thunder youth is showing. The Nuggets are using their experience to steal a game. Imho- the Thunder coach is getting out coached by a interim coach. Hopefully the Thunder will figure it out and send the Nuggets to Concun
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WFDevTeam 99 Posts (28 )
2 month(s) 25 day(s) ago
As a 76ers fan I'm happy to see the Celtics lose.  Go Knicks.  A bit confused as to how it is the Knicks have been able to do this a bit not.  They have the grit to get the job done.  the 76ers never had that.  That had a bit of it with guys like TJ and Saric but they weren't quite up to snuff talent wise.  Had it in Butler but didn't hold onto him.  Knicks showing baseline talent and a double serving size of grit and you can take them down.
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WFDevTeam 99 Posts (28 )
2 month(s) 26 day(s) ago
At this point I think the 76ers are too pathetic for anyone to hate.  
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Mr. Football 26 Posts (1 )
2 month(s) 27 day(s) ago
Hey Walt- I watched the game.  You might have jinxed the Thunder.  The last 2 games the Thunder will get big leads.  Then focus on shooting bricks for three,'s- allowing the Nuggets get back into the game.  Gordon has been a thorn in the Thunder's side throughout the series- with the Thunder having no answer.  Imho the Nuggets will go up 3 games to the Thunder's 2 games on Tuesday.  The Nuggets don't fear the Thunder. Expect the joker to have a bounce back game in game 5. Just my two cents worth 
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Mr. Football 26 Posts (1 )
2 month(s) 29 day(s) ago
Walt- once again I have to agree. In the 1st game- the Nuggets celebrated like they had just won their 2nd NBA Championship.  I agree with your total assessment!
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v2micca 3 Posts (2 )
3 month(s) 0 day(s) ago
As a Broncos fan, I think calling our 2024 defense Superb is a little bit of an exaggeration.  They were good, great even at times.  But our light, quick defensive line and weak interior Linebacking core allowed teams like Baltimore and Buffalo to completely bully our front seven.  If Dre Greenlaw can play healthy (which is unfortunately looking less likely) the additions of Hufanga and Barron should help in containing plays from breaking through the second level.  That alone will go a long way in keeping us more competitive against bruising running games.  And that is a good thing for us, as half of the AFC West seems to be developing their own power running game now.    
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Mr. Football 26 Posts (1 )
3 month(s) 1 day(s) ago
The George Pickens trade makes up for the lack of drafting a WR- If Pickens behaves himself and becomes the Tony Hill- Alvin Harper to Cee Dee- Imho Pickens could be franchise tag in 2026.
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Mr. Football 26 Posts (1 )
3 month(s) 1 day(s) ago
I totally agree.  The Nuggets celebrated like it was 1999. The Thunder will storm back BIG time 
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jrkloster 11 Posts (7 )
3 month(s) 2 day(s) ago
Man, that Hunter had better be good for the Jags to pick at 22!  I'm guessing top ten.
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jrkloster 11 Posts (7 )
3 month(s) 2 day(s) ago
I honestly don't think the Browns go defense with 2 top ten picks.  Like I said last week, unless someone lights it up (no Flacco) then the highest pick will be a QB
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WFDevTeam 99 Posts (28 )
3 month(s) 3 day(s) ago

@DirtyDobler 

Thanks for the heads up.  We had the analysis just missed the top list.  

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DirtyDobler dl.Comment..UserAccount.CommentCount Posts (0)
3 month(s) 6 day(s) ago

You have last years 49ers picks up for 2025 Jacksonville.  

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manowak313 dl.Comment..UserAccount.CommentCount Posts (0)
3 month(s) 7 day(s) ago
Jeremiyah Love will be evaluated on the same level (at least) as Bijan. Not mocking him in the first two rounds is insane barring injury.
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tysdisposition dl.Comment..UserAccount.CommentCount Posts (0)
3 month(s) 8 day(s) ago
The Seahawks drafting 9?! baaa you stupid
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Osmodiar 16 Posts (2 )
3 month(s) 9 day(s) ago

Other than Arch, I'd love to see the Browns somehow get Caleb Downs. Dude can straight up ball... would've been a top 10 pick in last week's draft.

Jeremiah Smith has to wait 2 more years, which is insane. Smith would've been a top 5 pick this year.

Very curious to see how Nico does at UCLA this year. Also Sam Leavitt at ASU.

I think Drew Allar will bust - something is off about him, he should've developed more by now.

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42yardline 35 Posts (8 )
3 month(s) 10 day(s) ago
Excellent draft for the Bills. Quality choices at obvious positions of need. This could put them in the Super Bowl.
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jrkloster 11 Posts (7 )
3 month(s) 10 day(s) ago
"generally reliable" and "character concerns" do not scream 3rd pick of the draft at me. Unless one of the younger Cle QBs steps up in a big way their highest pick will be for a QB
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injury log 1 Posts (2 )
3 month(s) 13 day(s) ago

After the 3rd round, I wonder what the point is of writing "the Colts get some cornerback depth" or "the Packers get some wide receiver depth" after every pick, since that is obviously what is happening from the pick itself.

It would be actually interesting to read about why players not in the top 400 on the consensus big board are going in your 3rd round (D'Eryk Jackson), or why guys in the consensus top 100 are falling to your 7th round (Dylan Sampson). It will be interesting to see if those picks are close to right, and it does make me want to know if you have information on those guys that most analysts don't have.

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WFDevTeam 99 Posts (28 )
3 month(s) 13 day(s) ago
I love it when a player comes in with a chip on their shoulder so looking forward to seeing where Sanders goes at this point.
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chestine21 dl.Comment..UserAccount.CommentCount Posts (0)
3 month(s) 13 day(s) ago
Why would the Raiders take Kaleb Johnson at 68 when they took Jeanty at 6?
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42yardline 35 Posts (8 )
3 month(s) 13 day(s) ago

@Mr. Football  

How come whenever a draftnik says about their pick "Take it to the bank" they are almost always wrong?

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Mr. Bitter 555 Posts (405 )
3 month(s) 13 day(s) ago

Aaaaand of course my Jets drafted the OT with the highest bust potential, IMO.

Any idea on what position the Rams are targeting at 2.46? I'm thinking CB.

Passing up Travis Hunter to draft Mason Graham top-5 is why the Browns are the Browns.

Nice call on CIN/Shemar Stewart.

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craigulator dl.Comment..UserAccount.CommentCount Posts (0)
3 month(s) 13 day(s) ago
Oh man.  If things break this way, if I'm Seattle's GM, I'm taking Higgins in the second right before the Broncos, and Mason Taylor at 52.  DK leaving left a hole at X WR, and with Brady Russell moving to FB the team only has two TEs on the roster, one of which, Fant, is on the final year of his deal - can guarantee Seattle takes a TE before the weekend is overm Kubiak loves 2 TE sets.
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mwganson dl.Comment..UserAccount.CommentCount Posts (0)
3 month(s) 14 day(s) ago
Worst part of the Saints taking Banks is it let Walker slide to the Falcons.
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jschabram dl.Comment..UserAccount.CommentCount Posts (0)
3 month(s) 14 day(s) ago
Which team is MOST LIKELY to make the 1st HEADSCRATCHING PICK?  I believe you can never go wrong saying THE RAIDERS!!
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subvet 0 Posts (4 )
3 month(s) 14 day(s) ago
If the Ravens draft resembles this mock with the exception of a few picks I would be very happy w=with this result
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COVID69 6 Posts (3 )
3 month(s) 14 day(s) ago
wow great mock
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FeaglesBeagles 0 Posts (1 )
3 month(s) 14 day(s) ago
Bizarre that both Charlie and Walter don't have Sanders being drafted in the first round. I get that his stock has fallen but to think that no one would spend a first rounder on him is insane. Saints, Steelers, Raiders, Colts, Giants, Jets, Browns etc. are all possibilities to draft him where they are or to trade into the late first round and nab him. First round means fifth year option. Tough to take these mocks seriously without Sanders somewhere in the first round. 
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edgk44 3 Posts (1 )
3 month(s) 14 day(s) ago
It was only week ago that Howie Roseman was asked how the Eagles deal with players who have off-field concerns. He said it is on a case-by-case basis BUT, players with sexual assault or violence against women charges are barred from even being considered by the Eagles. Zero chance Mike Green is even listed on their big board.
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WFDevTeam 99 Posts (28 )
3 month(s) 15 day(s) ago

@-Rod- 

I did have to deploy the debacled site a bit ago which may have caused issues.  or it may be a bug in which case I may not be able to fix it until after the draft.  Feel free to email me at dfield6091@gmail.com if you want to add more details.

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-Rod- dl.Comment..UserAccount.CommentCount Posts (0)
3 month(s) 15 day(s) ago
Is anyone else unable to delete mock drafts on Debacled?
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schottgr dl.Comment..UserAccount.CommentCount Posts (0)
3 month(s) 15 day(s) ago

So much wrong with this take:

1. No way in hell will the Giants be bad enough to draft Arch in 2026.

2. He didn't even start over Quinn Ewers.

3. He doesn't have nearly enough experience to even think about declaring after the 25 season.

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fedora3000 dl.Comment..UserAccount.CommentCount Posts (0)
3 month(s) 15 day(s) ago

Sounds like a cry for help Charlie, "my mock drafts are a projection of what I think teams WILL do and not what they SHOULD do."

Perhaps Walterfootball will allow you to do a mock on "what teams SHOULD do". :-)

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GrantDoc dl.Comment..UserAccount.CommentCount Posts (0)
3 month(s) 16 day(s) ago

Cleveland has to trade up into slot 22 to take a QB, just because they've had so much success doing that in the past.

/sarc

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mwganson dl.Comment..UserAccount.CommentCount Posts (0)
3 month(s) 16 day(s) ago
At 93 you say Chase Young hit free agency.  Not accurate, Saints gave him another contract.  Does this change your thinking with that pick?  Cam is still set to retire after the year probably.
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JRO60 14 Posts (8 )
3 month(s) 16 day(s) ago
Has anyone else noticed that Charlie and Walt are working from different draft orders?
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Mr. Bitter 555 Posts (405 )
3 month(s) 16 day(s) ago

@The Champ

You know what...scratch that about Henderson. Jahmyr Gibbs is a tandem RB and he popped off at 1.12. There are always surprise 1st RD picks and explosive offensive weapons are at a premium. I like Henderson better than Hampton, and Feldman's article suggests that a lot of NFL decision-makers feel the same. I'm finding a spot for Henderson in the 1st RD.

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Mr. Bitter 555 Posts (405 )
3 month(s) 16 day(s) ago
If you have access to The Athletic, check out Bruce Feldman's latest article. It's a position-by-position scroll of quotes from NFL scouts and coordinators about prospects that he's heard throughout the pre-draft process. It's similar to the Bob McGinn series, but less mean-spirited and likely more legit. Feldman's 2024 edition was mostly spot on as far as speculation as to where the prospects might pop off.
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Mr. Bitter 555 Posts (405 )
3 month(s) 16 day(s) ago

@The Champ 

For what it's worth, the Pewter Report - where Charlie Campbell used to work - like Donovan Ezeiruaka at 1.19 and Demetrius Knight or Jeffrey Bassa in RD 3 or 4 for the Bucs. They've been on Ezeiruaka all along and never seriously considered Jihaad Campbell there. They have historically been pretty sharp with TB's picks.

The UNDER on Egbuka's 29.0 O/U (-275) and OVER on the 2.5 total WRs drafted in the 1sr RD (-280) are getting juicier. I think Egbuka is a pretty safe 1st RD bet.

I have to agree on TreVeyon Henderson. I love Henderson and his fit in DEN, WAS or even with the Chargers, but he's always been a tandem RB, and a tandem RB is an unlikely 1st-rounder. I'm considering DL or CB for DEN now - Payton could easily like Day Two guys like Kaleb Johnson or D.J Giddens.

Be careful how high you slot Josh Simmons. I live in Columbus. Trust me - be careful.

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dohboy24 dl.Comment..UserAccount.CommentCount Posts (0)
3 month(s) 16 day(s) ago
Mmmm...IDK about Miami taking a guard at 13, we can get a good one at 48. We need an impact DT, CB, or S at 13
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The Champ 137 Posts (27 )
3 month(s) 16 day(s) ago
Regarding the blurb about the Rams at 26, if they went WR, I think it's far more likely that they would be interested in Egbuka over Burden.  Egbuka, in addition to the obvious receiving production, is loved by teams for his character, and the Rams really appreciate receivers who block their tail off in the run game.  Think Robert Woods here, but better.  
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The Champ 137 Posts (27 )
3 month(s) 16 day(s) ago
I think I'm going to have to make some changes to what I have at the moment.  The chatter seems to be that Jihaad Campbell is going to end up on PUP, so I may drop him from 19th to Tampa, a pairing I have had for weeks.  I think they see themselves as contenders, so perhaps they aren't willing to use their first pick on a guy who seems destined to have a lingering injury into the season.  (Maybe that's a spot for Starks, 19 to Tampa.)  Conversely, Josh Simmons seems to have gotten a positive medical evaluation and I'm getting the sense that he will be long gone before 31; he's a legit LT prospect in a draft with virtually none of them.  I also really want to find a way to get Egbuka back into Round 1, as this is a proven producer who didn't take a backseat to other outstanding Ohio St. teammates, who interviewed remarkably well with teams, and who is a plus in the run game too because of his well he blocks.  I may end up dropping Henderson back out of Round 1 and just slotting Hampton back to Denver, but damn, I really love that Henderson fit for them.  
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Mr. Bitter 555 Posts (405 )
3 month(s) 17 day(s) ago

@Walt

Vegas odds now have Jeanty over Graham as the favorite to go at #5. You may want to mention Jeanty as a possibility at that spot.

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Mr. Bitter 555 Posts (405 )
3 month(s) 17 day(s) ago

@The Champ 

I think Loveland could easily pop off before Warren.

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Mr. Bitter 555 Posts (405 )
3 month(s) 17 day(s) ago

I'm currently banging out my contest mock and have prioritized pinpointing where the QB prospects are going to go and kinda working around that. Here's what I think I think so far:

Cam Ward/TEN - Mistake, but inevitable.

Shedeur Sanders/PIT - It's simple. Aaron Rodgers wants to start for a contender. PIT is the only realistic option left for him. Rodgers is literally waiting to see if PIT drafts Sanders or Dart, and if they do, he'll retire.

I don't care how bloated the OVER number on Sanders' 9.5 O/U gets or how much smoke there is that he'll tumble out of the 1st RD - if Penix and Nix went as high as they did in a much stronger draft, then Sanders is going in the 1st RD, with 1.21 his absolute floor.

Jaxson Dart/CLE - Whether it's a trade up from 2.33 or at 2.33, I think Dart will be CLE's target. Dart is this draft's QB analytics darling and no team emphasizes analytics like CLE. Dart is also going to be a bust; drafting QB busts is what the Browns do.

I'm getting the feeling that 1.06 could be a sneaky spot for Sanders. Geno Smith is approaching 35 and basically on a one-year deal. O'Connell is on the trading block. Brady has a history with the Sanders family. Sure, if Jeanty pops off at 1.05, the Raiders could pivot to a RT like Membou, Jalon Walker, maybe even Mykel Williams or Tet McMillan, but I think they would consider Sanders just as strongly. The Raiders have quietly been bringing in all the QBs for Top 30s and WOs, too.

The Rams might consider Dart, but it's impossible to say because they do their scouting in-season and meet with prospects virtually. I'm going to assume they ride with Stafford/Garoppolo one more year.

I think SEA will come out of Day Two with Will Howard or Tyler Shough.

If PIT doesn't get Sanders or Dart, then Rodgers signs with PIT and maybe the Steelers grab a Will Howard or Kyle McCord in the 3rd/4th RD.

Chris Ballard will ride with AR/Danny Dimes because he's a drunken idiot.

The Saints use 3.71 or 3.93 on Quinn Ewers.

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Mr. Bitter 555 Posts (405 )
3 month(s) 17 day(s) ago

I really like that ATL/Ersery pick. McGary is a much better run-blocker than pass-blocker, and he's now the blindside protector with the lefty under center. ATL has been scouting OTs heavily during the pre-draft process. I just wonder if Ersery makes it out of the top 40. He's in play for KC and PHI at the bottom of RD 1.

I think the Giants might like Milroe, too. There's the Bama connection, and while the Giants aren't winning the SB with that Wilson/Winston QB room, it's the kinda QB situation that suggests a project rookie QB that might need a redshirt season. That seems to point more toward Milroe than Sanders/Dart. Milroe's raw, rushing threat/bazooka-but-inaccurate arm skill set has parallels to early Josh Allen, who Daboll was instrumental in refining in BUF.

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The Champ 137 Posts (27 )
3 month(s) 18 day(s) ago
Nice mock.  Only real quibble is that I don't see the Texans going with the specific OL that is Simmons because they seem committed to going for high-character OL's only who offer leadership.  I'm thinking of Booker, Zabel if he falls, or maybe Donovan Jackson or Conerly Jr., assuming they go OL.  Could see them pivoting to Egbuka (if available) if Booker and Zabel are gone.  
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The Champ 137 Posts (27 )
3 month(s) 18 day(s) ago

@Mr. Bitter My new mock has Warren going 9th to the Saints instead of Will Johnson, but that is a really difficult pick to pin down because the Saints have so many needs and I don't think they are going to pick a QB.  Regardless of who is available at 10, I absolutely think that the Jags should trade down with the Bears and pick up #39 if they can.  Graham is not a blue-chipper and it's as simple as that.  I don't hate it if they take Jeanty, though.  But as I said, I like the current bet of Jeanty +300 to go #5 overall.  The odds of his drafted team being the Jaguars is also +300, but I like the odds for him being the #5 pick much better.  This is because you'd have two chances to win the bet, one if the Jags just take him, and two if the Bears (or someone else) trades up.  Can't win the bet if someone trades up! 

A couple of other notes:  Schrager tweeted tonight that two players that will go earlier than mock consensus are Mykel Williams and Colston Loveland.  I already have Williams 11th to SF and Loveland 14th to Indy, so I'm not inclined to change anything right now, but it's worth noting for sure. 

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Mr. Bitter 555 Posts (405 )
3 month(s) 18 day(s) ago

@pinballer3 

I did this exercise to break out of the media regurgitation/groupthink rut that you mentioned. Every year around this time it's the same: All the legitimate information that can be gathered has been gathered, so all that's left for the media is rumor, speculation and flat-out disinformation that gets repeated so often that everyone just kinda accepts it, leading to the top 6 to 8 picks in every mock draft looking exactly the same. And every year, the actual draft looks nothing like the consensus and everybody gets like six to nine 1st RD picks right. I don't want to do that this year. "1. Ward 2. Hunter 3. Carter 4. Campbell 5. Graham 6. Jeanty 7. Membou 8. Walker" just isn't how it's going to go down. So I decided to tune out the media stuff until the eve of the draft and focus on going back to the tape, team needs and where the value pockets are for those needs. Because that's exactly what NFL decision-makers are doing right now.

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3 month(s) 18 day(s) ago

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Mr. Bitter 555 Posts (405 )
3 month(s) 18 day(s) ago

@pinballer3 

Banks' current 13.5 O/U is poised to drop. The UNDER is getting hammered. I'm not surprised at all. On tape, he's the cleanest LT prospect in the draft. I never understood why he ever dropped outside of the top-10 in mocks. Maybe prospect fatigue...I dunno. He's just so good, clean and consistent that it's boring. I think he's in play for the Jets at 1.07 and wouldn't be shocked if the Pats just picked him over T-Rex at 1.04.

Membou at LT is pure projection. I mean, he might be able to, but I see no evidence of it on tape. He plays like a guard. That would be a risky pick for SF if Membou slides.

Campbell plays so upright. I don't see him at guard. He'll lose the leverage game in there. I doubt he gets out of the top-10 though.

I was on the SF/future LT at 1.11 train for a while, but I'm off it now. Just really think that the 49ers can't afford to f*ck around. They absolutely have to address the DL early and often in this draft. Bosa is all alone. You put that DL out there against the Rams OL, and Stafford eats that defense alive.

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pinballer3 2 Posts (1 )
3 month(s) 18 day(s) ago
Well played. Mocks that make you think are more interesting than media regurgitation. I'm now staring at my mock pick of Banks at 11 for SF, wondering if T-REX might fall there. I picked Banks for SF due to his high value OT position, assuming that a pretty good DL/E pick would be there for them in round 2. FanDuel has both OL and DL/E at +180, no help. Hmm...I think Banks is still a good bet, as Graham probably doesn't make it past the Saints. But then, every logical argument is like Swiss cheese. I look forward to your updates.
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Mr. Bitter 555 Posts (405 )
3 month(s) 18 day(s) ago

@The Champ

I mean, if we are going to assume that the new JAX regime is going to just sweep out unproven recent 2nd-rounders drafted by the former regime, then why is nobody talking about JAX trading down and drafting Tyler Warren to replace Brenton Strange? It's not like Trevor Lawrence doesn't need all the help he can get.