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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
28 day(s) 22 hour(s) ago

I think Jimmy Haslam, a Southern guy, will throw all his chips in to get Arch Manning, a Southern guy. Haslam has an obsession with overriding the front office on QB decisions.

But will Manning (the Mannings?) pull an Elway/Eli and say Arch will not play for Cleveland?

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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
28 day(s) 22 hour(s) ago - hide

I think Jimmy Haslam, a Southern guy, will throw all his chips in to get Arch Manning, a Southern guy. Haslam has an obsession with overriding the front office on QB decisions.

But will Manning (the Mannings?) pull an Elway/Eli and say Arch will not play for Cleveland?

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ganymede2010 • 0 Posts (0) •
3 day(s) 12 hour(s) ago
@Osmodiar Hell will freeze over before the Manning's will allow Arch to go to Cleveland of all places. Plus, he would be in the same division of Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson who will elite for the next decade. Without a doubt Haslam will try however his feeble attempts will be futile at best. 
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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
4 month(s) 4 day(s) ago - hide

Other than Arch, I'd love to see the Browns somehow get Caleb Downs. Dude can straight up ball... would've been a top 10 pick in last week's draft.

Jeremiah Smith has to wait 2 more years, which is insane. Smith would've been a top 5 pick this year.

Very curious to see how Nico does at UCLA this year. Also Sam Leavitt at ASU.

I think Drew Allar will bust - something is off about him, he should've developed more by now.

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Mr. Bitter • 560 Posts (402 ) •
28 day(s) 19 hour(s) ago

@Osmodiar 

Agree on Allar. Not a 1st round prospect.

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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
4 month(s) 4 day(s) ago

Other than Arch, I'd love to see the Browns somehow get Caleb Downs. Dude can straight up ball... would've been a top 10 pick in last week's draft.

Jeremiah Smith has to wait 2 more years, which is insane. Smith would've been a top 5 pick this year.

Very curious to see how Nico does at UCLA this year. Also Sam Leavitt at ASU.

I think Drew Allar will bust - something is off about him, he should've developed more by now.

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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
28 day(s) 22 hour(s) ago - hide

I think Jimmy Haslam, a Southern guy, will throw all his chips in to get Arch Manning, a Southern guy. Haslam has an obsession with overriding the front office on QB decisions.

But will Manning (the Mannings?) pull an Elway/Eli and say Arch will not play for Cleveland?

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Mr. Bitter • 560 Posts (402 ) •
28 day(s) 19 hour(s) ago

@Osmodiar 

I think it depends on what the CLE front office/coaching staff looks like by draft day, and whether the Browns address the offensive supporting cast by then. As you mentioned in an earlier comment, the Browns interior O-line needs rebuilding. (I would add that LT is still a problem, as Dawand Jones should be at RT.)

If the Mannings are convinced that a new CLE brain trust has a plan, then why not the Browns for Arch? If Arch is the real deal, then he might embrace the idea of carving out his own legacy in CLE.

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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
28 day(s) 22 hour(s) ago
@Mr. Bitter Arch probably would declare if he knew NO would have the first pick.
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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
28 day(s) 22 hour(s) ago
I'd rather see the Browns take Downs at 3 than take a risk on a DE. Downs will be a star.
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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
3 month(s) 7 day(s) ago

Would like to see Cleveland somehow get Caleb Downs, he's going to be a great pro. Would've been a top 10 pick in this recent draft. They already have safeties though, maybe they could use him in nickel packages. Greg Newsome won't be back in 2026, one way or the other.

Otherwise Cleveland needs interior OL. Their guards are expensive and Bitonio is getting old. Teller will be 31 during the 26 season. Would've been nice to trade Bitonio before the draft. I'm not sure Zak Zinter is developing.

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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
4 month(s) 22 day(s) ago

@woo hoo 

I was just about to say - wasn't Hunter the no.1 overall recruit in his class? The talent is inherent, I hope Cleveland takes him at no.2

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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
4 month(s) 22 day(s) ago

If both those QBs are available at the top of the 2nd, wouldn't it make more sense for the Browns to trade with PHI or KC for 32 or 31, and get that 5th year option for a rookie QB contract?

Going by the value chart, the Browns could give #33 and 179 this year, for 31 or 32 this year.

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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
6 month(s) 13 day(s) ago

@palacio1500 

Daniels is returning to Kansas for 2025

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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
8 month(s) 3 day(s) ago - hide

Cleveland needs to trade Myles Garrett, David Njoku, and Joel Bitonio - and get what they can for them now, not "someone to rush with Garrett"

This team has so many holes, mostly on offense. They need just about a whole new offensive line, and a running back.

A pass rusher won't vault them into the Superbowl next year.

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mekeja7874 • 5 Posts (0) •
6 month(s) 15 day(s) ago
@The Champ I'll trade you an Aiyuk, 3rd rounder and 2026 1st for Garrett.
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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
8 month(s) 3 day(s) ago

Cleveland needs to trade Myles Garrett, David Njoku, and Joel Bitonio - and get what they can for them now, not "someone to rush with Garrett"

This team has so many holes, mostly on offense. They need just about a whole new offensive line, and a running back.

A pass rusher won't vault them into the Superbowl next year.

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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
7 month(s) 15 day(s) ago

"...Milroe needs to improve his ability to read coverage, his knowledge of defenses, his communication, and develop his football I.Q."

Sounds like an effing disaster, and waste of a pretty high pick to me.

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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
7 month(s) 15 day(s) ago - hide

"...Milroe needs to improve his ability to read coverage, his knowledge of defenses, his communication, and develop his football I.Q."

Sounds like an effing disaster, and waste of a pretty high pick to me.

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mekeja7874 • 5 Posts (0) •
6 month(s) 15 day(s) ago
@Osmodiar I have the kid from Syracuse, McCord, ahead of all these bums after Dart.
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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
7 month(s) 15 day(s) ago - hide

"...Milroe needs to improve his ability to read coverage, his knowledge of defenses, his communication, and develop his football I.Q."

Sounds like an effing disaster, and waste of a pretty high pick to me.

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Poontang • 13 Posts (10 ) •
6 month(s) 28 day(s) ago
@Osmodiar  Exactly -- Another BUST coming
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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
7 month(s) 18 day(s) ago - hide
Browns already have a Cam Ward - his name is Jameis Winston.
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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
7 month(s) 9 day(s) ago

@Barnowl1952 

yeah they're handcuffed until Watson is off the books. JOK, the LB may never play again. Ironic, since that was by far Berry's best pick.

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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
7 month(s) 18 day(s) ago
Browns already have a Cam Ward - his name is Jameis Winston.
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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
7 month(s) 9 day(s) ago

with the Pete Carroll news, Deion won't be coaching the Raiders - thus they probably wouldn't trade up with Cleveland.

Only thing that makes sense now for Cleveland is Travis Hunter at no.2 - if TEN doesn't take him no.1 

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trade no.2 to a team for their choice of QB (with Hunter off the board) for a ransom in picks

still would like to see Myles Garrett traded. Cleveland is going nowhere in the next 2 years.

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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
7 month(s) 18 day(s) ago - hide
Browns already have a Cam Ward - his name is Jameis Winston.
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Barnowl1952 • 7 Posts (0) •
7 month(s) 10 day(s) ago

@Osmodiar Agree. They’ll probably pick up another cast off QB who will give us 5 wins. They need to acquire draft capital for next years QB derby.

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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
7 month(s) 19 day(s) ago - hide
Jaxson Dart is going in the first round. A team will want that 5th year option.
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dylan.cathey65 • 2 Posts (0) •
7 month(s) 15 day(s) ago
@Osmodiar  i agree.   I believe Dart is definitely a first round QB with all the skills needed to be a good NFL QB out the gate 
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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
7 month(s) 19 day(s) ago
Jaxson Dart is going in the first round. A team will want that 5th year option.
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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
7 month(s) 19 day(s) ago
Best Browns scenario now: Deion becomes the Raiders coach, Browns trade #2 to them for #6 and more picks. Raiders take Sheduer #2.
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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
8 month(s) 3 day(s) ago - hide

Cleveland needs to trade Myles Garrett, David Njoku, and Joel Bitonio - and get what they can for them now, not "someone to rush with Garrett"

This team has so many holes, mostly on offense. They need just about a whole new offensive line, and a running back.

A pass rusher won't vault them into the Superbowl next year.

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The Champ • 137 Posts (27 ) •
7 month(s) 23 day(s) ago
@Osmodiar I agree that they should trade Garrett.  They can't fix their OL in one year and it's gone from a major strength to a major liability in just two years.  Get a ransom for Garrett, trade down from #2 if you think this year's QB class sucks (it does), and then perhaps consider Abdul Carter after a small move down the board.  Also, the thought of Kirk Cousins behind that OL is hilarious.  
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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
8 month(s) 20 day(s) ago
Cleveland needs the best OT. Theirs are either beat up (Conklin, Jones), terrible, or both (Jedrick Wills). They should draft another OT in the second round too lol. They also need a RB - Nick Chubb is done, sorry to say.
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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
8 month(s) 20 day(s) ago - hide
Cleveland needs the best OT. Theirs are either beat up (Conklin, Jones), terrible, or both (Jedrick Wills). They should draft another OT in the second round too lol. They also need a RB - Nick Chubb is done, sorry to say.
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holiday.or.shopping • 2 Posts (0) •
8 month(s) 7 day(s) ago
@Mr. Bitter I hear your line of reasoning here, but how far do you trade back?  The top QB’s and OT’s always go higher than expected.  You are saying that their are no OT’s worth a top 10 selection.  So what does Cleveland do if they trade back from 5 to 15 and Campbell, Connerly and Banks are all gone by 15?  Reach for the next OT?  You have to realize that Cleveland’s next pick isnt until pick #37 or something like that.  Now, if you can trade down 2 or 3 spots a couple of times and gain some extra picks while ensuring you dont lose out on one of the top 3 OT’s, then i am all for that move.
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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
8 month(s) 20 day(s) ago - hide
Cleveland needs the best OT. Theirs are either beat up (Conklin, Jones), terrible, or both (Jedrick Wills). They should draft another OT in the second round too lol. They also need a RB - Nick Chubb is done, sorry to say.
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Mr. Bitter • 560 Posts (402 ) •
8 month(s) 18 day(s) ago

@Osmodiar 

Agree, but is there a tackle worth taking in the top-10?

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Osmodiar • 16 Posts (2 ) •
8 month(s) 20 day(s) ago
Cleveland should blow up the team and start over in the offseason. Get 2-3 first rounders for Garrett, and get whatever they can for Njoku. JOK may never play again.
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