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1 years 6 month(s) ago

Appreciate the insight! The more I think about it I am leaning toward McKinstry now. Think it could be a spot someone will move up for a receiver too, that is if Jacksonville thinks they will still be able to grab their guy somewhere in the 20s.

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1 years 6 month(s) ago - hide

Appreciate the insight! The more I think about it I am leaning toward McKinstry now. Think it could be a spot someone will move up for a receiver too, that is if Jacksonville thinks they will still be able to grab their guy somewhere in the 20s.

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1 years 6 month(s) ago
@SteelCityLJ Almost there, good luck!
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Appreciate the insight! The more I think about it I am leaning toward McKinstry now. Think it could be a spot someone will move up for a receiver too, that is if Jacksonville thinks they will still be able to grab their guy somewhere in the 20s.

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SteelCityLJ • 2 Posts (1 ) •
1 years 6 month(s) ago
@jpmccormick22 Agreed on the trade front. From all the research I've done, the Jags don't seem married to any one single prospect at the moment. Like you alluded, it really depends on how the board falls. I'm sure no one in Jacksonville would complain if Quinyon Mitchell fell or someone crazy dropped out of the top-10 like Odunze, haha. Thankfully, the wait will be over soon!
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jpmccormick22 • 0 Posts (0) •
1 years 6 month(s) ago

This is some damn good work here.

Just curious what you mean by Baalke doesn’t draft guys in Terrion Arnold’s mold. Wouldn’t you say Travon Walker was sort of like that? Or do you mean he just goes by his own board sort of thing?

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1 years 6 month(s) ago - hide

This is some damn good work here.

Just curious what you mean by Baalke doesn’t draft guys in Terrion Arnold’s mold. Wouldn’t you say Travon Walker was sort of like that? Or do you mean he just goes by his own board sort of thing?

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SteelCityLJ • 2 Posts (1 ) •
1 years 6 month(s) ago
@jpmccormick22 Don't get me wrong, Arnold could still very well be the pick. However, a lot of offenses nowadays have figured out that not every team has two Tyson Campbells (big 6'0-plus corners who can lock down a no. 1 receiver), so you'll typically see teams with two big receivers that can win contested balls, and then one slot guy. If Baalke wants a second Tyson Campbell-type guy, it'll be McKinstry. If he thinks Darby is already that guy (which I'm not convinced) then he'll take the leaner Arnold to cover the route running receivers.
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1 years 6 month(s) ago - hide

This is some damn good work here.

Just curious what you mean by Baalke doesn’t draft guys in Terrion Arnold’s mold. Wouldn’t you say Travon Walker was sort of like that? Or do you mean he just goes by his own board sort of thing?

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SteelCityLJ • 2 Posts (1 ) •
1 years 6 month(s) ago

@jpmccormick22 Thank you for the kind comment! You're correct about JAX's GM, he tends to go for guys with physical intangibles. Walker is the best example of that. Hutchinson was arguably more polished, but Baalke took Walker for being a straight up "physically athletic freak" type of guy. Not that Arnold isn't special or an outlier, but the "body test" is a good benchmark for the Arnold v. McKinstry debate. Looking at the guys side-by-side, although they are both physically imposing and play like a couple bulldogs, Arnold looks half the size of McKinstry at times.

TL;DR, Baalke - even back to his days in SF - seems to prefer guys who don't typically play like their size or body type might suggest. I think Etienne is a good underrated example: shorter and built bulky (5'10, 215lbs) but plays very shifty and catches well out of the backfield. You typically see 5'10 200+ guys bulk up another 10-15 pounds and become downhill, 3rd-and-short type backs.

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