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shankdiddy3 • 3 Posts (4

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1 years 10 month(s) ago

@Mr. Bitter I am really looking at Patrick's traits.. same traits he had in college. And Patrick had tons of hero ball .. but what i am trying to draw the line in the sand here is "EYE LEVEL" .. Patrick eyes stay down field vs bodies around him.. I just don't see Caleb as a guy who is gonna slide and move in the pocket eyes down field and make stick throws.... and that is the MEAT of how you over come 3rd down.. 2 min drill...end of half.. known passing situations.

shankdiddy3 • 3 Posts (4

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1 years 10 month(s) ago

@Mr. Bitter I say the Mahomes comp is lazy because if you are looking at highlights then sure they are similar. But Caleb Williams is not displaying similar skill sets. Highlights yeah... ability? NO... he isn't riding and sliding in the pocket with eyes down field FEELING THE RUSH not LOOKING AT the rush.. while making anticipation throws down field.. .he isn't doing that. He 100% no way around it isn't doing that. He is polar opposite.. eyes come down and goes into "hero ball"... this is a line in the sand on their play style that DEFINES what the great QB's do and what QB's who bust do and or don't pan out.

Micheal Penix Jr has 1 or 2 misses that make you go "hmm bruh"... but overall he has unique ball placement. He just has a dash of "miss" in him. .... and to be honest that is 85% of quarterbacks. There is a small small group of QB's in the history of football that don't do that. I noted it, but it just isn't alarming. I can live with that. Because i think the end result is high level production and a pathway to big play field position changing throws.

shankdiddy3 • 3 Posts (4

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1 years 10 month(s) ago

@phillin1

As a Lions fan i pray the Bears draft Caleb Williams and get Justin Fields out of this division. Because I think Caleb Williams is extremely overrated. I think he may very well be the most overrated QB prospect in my lifetime.

He isn't a QB that excels at playing within the scheme. He isn't a QB that when facing 3rd and disadvantaged down and distances can lift a team up in this situations. 2min drill .. end of half... 3rd and long.. over coming a penalty. He just isn't that guy. We all are watching the same player who struggled as the season went on this year when the other team responded to scores.. when they was in a bunch of 3rd and 7 plus... when they needed him to drop back and throw dimes.. he was playing hero ball. Which by the way he isn't as good at doing that as Justin Fields in that area... Fields has the all time best rushing season in history for a QB and he couldn't win with run around hero ball..... the spark Fields has shown this season has been how he has developed as a passer.

Honestly Fields is flawed and will never be perfect and that is ok. But for me as a Lions fan I want the Bears to take Williams and trade Fields.. that way the Bears waste about 5 to 6 years plus with that.

Now I do think Williams can be good. But it will take him going to the right Coach. And the bear aint it... that is just the truth.

IF they was smart they would keep fields.. draft MHJ.. or trade down... get OL.. get play makers.. a corner.. and get behind fields.. Hopefully they don't do that and blow things up.

shankdiddy3 • 3 Posts (4

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1 years 10 month(s) ago

@Mr. Bitter I am not seeing Caleb Williams the same way. Many of the things i have talked about are now coming into the conversation. Caleb Williams isn't a high level facilitator with in the scheme. He isn't a guy who excels in 3rd and long known passing situations, 2min drill, end of half. ...in these situations he has been explosed.

So many lazy comparisons like comparing Caleb Williams to Patrick Mahomes and i can't see it. I think those that say that are watching highlights of these players and not down to down all 22 of these players. The down by down version of these players are not even remotely a like. The ability for Mahomes to make throws in known passing situations into tight windows and throw people open even when everyone in the world knows he has throw pass the sticks or into the end zone... these players are not a good comp at all.

Jayden Daniels in my opinion is the clear best QB in this class. Not just the best QB in this class but it isn't even CLOSE. Throw away the media hype and turn on the tape as if you have never heard of any of these players before and watch every snap... pay attention to the game situations.. the moments.. the ability to play inside stucture and out... the ability to project the passing game down field.. the lack of mistakes .. the theme of good decision making... the unique down field ball placement giving pass catchers a chance at the football.. it isn't even close

Drake Maye is the opposite, hasn't captured the moment. Is 4 wins against 8 losses in the last 6 games of the last two years in the most critical time of the year. Where is the clutch in the "got to have it moments"?.. we aren't playing FSU or Bama.. they are losing too G Tech and NC state and Virginia for God sake... where is the clutch gene?... this MATTERS!!! .. not sold on him. If he is playing his worse (not capturing the moment) when it matters i am paying CLOSE attention to it

Micheal Penix Jr is my 2nd QB behind Jayden Daniels. He has played at a high level for years. We kinda act like he just arrived. But has lead NCAAF in passing two years in a row... even before this year he is the ONLY QB in the 140 year history of college football to lead two seperate schools from not ranked in the top 50 to wins vs teams in the top 10. BTW that has happened 5 times in 65 years... and Penix Jr was the REASON behind 2 of those wins... that is a big GREEN flag on leadership... IN THE BIGGEST Moments he has made NFL clutch throws with the entire weight of a program riding on it... last year at Oregan 3rd and 7 3min left and he makes a dime NFL throw vs cover 2 for a TD to win it... key throws in GOT to have it moments.. NFL throws in got to have it moments for 2 years going 24 and 2 at UW..... People use lazy talking points like him having good pass catchers.. .but don't hold that against Joe Burrow he literally had the NFL ALL PRO FIRST TEAM in Justin Jefferson and Jamar Case.. with Terence Marshell and Clyde Edwards-Eliar and Leanord Fornette.... Micheal Penix jr is literally one of THE most underrated QB prospects this decade... only question mark i have is waiting to see his medical.. if that checks out he is my 2nd QB...NOBODY is doing MORE NFL "things" in key clutch situations in program defining moments than Penix Jr.

JJ McCarthy is way overrated. And i am a Michigan fan who has watched EVERY snap of UM since 1986. He has good tools and i like his ability. But he was hidden and protected in key moments. And that just isn't first round worthy. Not when a team that drafts him expects him to make unique plays in "GOT TO HAVE IT" moments and he isn't even doing that now.... and when put in that situation last (vs TCU) he failed and they been protecting him vs "meh" competition since.... good tools and ability... hasn't displayed any themes of clutch gene "carry a team on his back in key moments" type ability