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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
1 day(s) 16 hour(s) ago

@WFDevTeam 

It's all in good fun. Even the best prognosticators are lucky to turn a profit ATS. Walt has put his thoughts and predictions on every game out there for like two decades, knowing there will be whiffs and ensuing ridicule. That takes balls. What really irritates me are the pile-jumpers that never engage beforehand but are always there to call out when someone is wrong after the fact. Like, if you can do better then let's hear it, Jimmy the Greek.

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
1 day(s) 16 hour(s) ago

@WFDevTeam 

I dunno - I think it's more playfully gloating than bitter.

I've also been waiting a long time for the opportunity to shoehorn my favorite Sopranos line into a comment. Had to go for it.

I'm looking forward to his Week 20 picks to see how far off my parody is. I predict there will be suggestion that the 4th-down play would have somehow made a difference, how BAL is overrated and how bad their secondary is. 

I also predict BAL will beat BUF. The Ravens are perfectly designed to win on the road in the playoffs.

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
1 day(s) 23 hour(s) ago

@broncoselway 

You just reveal your own ignorance.

PIT was the right side. It was a bad beat. BAL's win had nothing to do with being at home, being more talented at every position, being better-coached or having a historically brutalizing ground game that had PIT LBs and DBs literally running away from contact and crushed what remained of PIT's spirit before halftime.

If you knew anything about football, you'd know that the rules state that if you go for it on 4th-down, you get to switch QBs with the opposing team. If PIT would have gone for it on 4th-down at their own 29-yard line in the 2nd quarter instead of stupidly punting it away, Lamar Jackson would have become PIT's QB, and the defense would have suddenly been able to stop Derrick Henry from running at will. So you see, it's not that BAL was the better team - the Steelers just screwed themselves with that decision.

The Jenna Jameson Effect also came into play in this game. I wouldn't Google it at work, but let's just say it has something to do with teams being more comfortable on top than behind. You see, PIT does much better when they have more points than the other team, so it's not that BAL was better than PIT, it's just that the Ravens wouldn't stop scoring points and let PIT get in their comfort zone. There was no way to see this coming, except for the facts that PIT had scored zero 1st-quarter points in their last 5 playoff games and BAL is the much, much better team. But I would like to think it had more to do with my bad luck and that God hates me. Also, I had the flu and was tired from staying up with the kids.

You're probably stupid enough to think the overrated Ravens and their practice squad secondary have any chance vs. the Bills next week. Sure, BAL ran for 271 yards and beat BUF 35-10 earlier in the season, but Jupiter wasn't aligned with Mars so DaQuan Jones and Ed Oliver were distracted.

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
2 day(s) 19 hour(s) ago

LAC -2.5  With Denzel Perryman's status still up in the air, I'll assume that both teams will be able to establish serviceable ground games and trade some early-game body blows, so the key questions here are which QB will face more pressure and which defense will be able to contain the opposing offense's best target as the game unfolds. I give the Chargers the advantage at both.

HOU's defensive scheme is predicated on consistent edge pressure from Will Anderson and Danielle Hunter. The Chargers are equipt like no other AFC playoff team to contain them with Rashawn Slater and Joe Alt. Conversely, Bosa and Mack will be taking turns on outmatched HOU RT Blake Fisher.

With a relatively clean pocket, Herbert will chisel away at the HOU defense with Ladd McConkey. Derek Stingley's shadow duties begin and end along the boundary, so McConkey will very likely see slot coverage from some combination of Myles Bryant, Jeff Okudah and Eric Murray. This just screams 11/120/2 for McConkey. On the flip side, the Chargers will be able to focus completely on containing Nico Collins, and should be successful, just as that historically bad BAL secondary was in Week 17. HOU's only other viable target is Dalton Schultz, and he has flat-out sucked all season. I don't see why he would stop sucking now, especially matched up against two of the NFL's highest-graded TE-erasers in Daiyan Henley and Derwin James.

I'm fairly confident the Chargers TCB (especially if Perryman plays), but since this is LA's first playoff appearance under a new regime (often a bad spot ATS, especially as a road favorite), I'll be laying off this game.

BAL -9.5  Rashod Bateman fully breaks out with 8/120/1, George Pickens melts down, and the Ravens beat the piss out of the Steelers. I'm betting every dime in the bank and a pinkie finger without hesitation. For more details, scroll down.

GL to all

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
2 day(s) 20 hour(s) ago

@DoctorJ 

Hey, that hurts. I thumbed-up your comment. I was just busting balls with the crazy thing.

Like I said - unreliable. 1 catch for zero yards vs. the Bengals. Just ask any Steelers fan what they think of George Pickens.

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
2 day(s) 20 hour(s) ago

No mention of rookie RG Mason McCormick's broken hand?

McCormick isn't Chris Lindstrom or anything, but he's been a godsend through the Fautanu, Daniels and Seaumalo injuries. The PIT O-line is mediocre, with fragile chemistry and crappy depth. They absolutely cannot lose another starter right now.

PIT beat writers seem confident McCormick will be OUT. They're saying the surprise release of WR Scotty Miller yesterday was almost certainly to activate OT Calvin Anderson to replace the depth lost with Spencer Anderson moving in at RG for McCormick. Anderson was horrid in his three games before being benched earlier this season.

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
3 day(s) 5 hour(s) ago

The last 17 double-digit playoff home favorites are 16-1 SU and 14-3 ATS. They average 33.5 PPG.

Which WR led the NFL with a 77.3% separation rate and has 4 TDs in his last 4 games? Rashod Bateman. Which secondary allows the highest separation rate, the most receiving yards and 7th-most TDs p/game to outside WRs? The Pittsburgh secondary.

Which "washed" TE has a TD in six straight games and has a league-leading average of 2.14 YPRR against single-high coverage? Mark Andrews. Which secondary uses single-high coverage at the highest rate? The Pittsburgh secondary. 

Isaiah Likely averages 1.77 YPRR against single-high coverage and has already went for 7/104/1 vs. PIT this season. Top-graded 3rd-down back Justice Hill and Nelson Agholor are back from injury this week. Lamar Jackson is #1 in QB EPA. Derrick Henry is #1 in RB EPA. The BAL O-line is ranked #1 in run and pass blocking, and #2 in Win Block % (DEN #1).

But no Zay Flowers for a week. How will the Ravens possibly score??

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
3 day(s) 6 hour(s) ago

@woo hoo 

More LAR motivation: McVay has reportedly put printed screen shots in the Rams locker room of Dan Campbell telling Kevin O'Connell "I'll see you in two weeks".

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
3 day(s) 7 hour(s) ago

@DoctorJ 

Wouldn't count on Freiermuth doing much. In his two games vs. BAL this season, he has a combined 5 catches for 30 yards.

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
3 day(s) 7 hour(s) ago

The Steelers have lost 5 straight playoff games with their opponents scoring an average of 40.4 PPG.

They've been outscored 66-0 in the first quarter of those games.

The Steelers haven't scored more than 17 points in over a month.

The Ravens have scored at least 30 points in 11 of the past 14 weeks.

Mentioned often: Steelers have won 8 of last 10 vs. BAL.

Not mentioned as often: Lamar Jackson was unavailable for 6 of those 10 games.

Per PFF, 138 CBs have played 100 or more coverage snaps this season.

Cam Sutton is ranked 128th.

Donte Jackson is ranked 132nd.

Of 223 CBs, Joey Porter Jr. (55.0) is PFF's 160th-ranked in overall grade.

Brandon Stephens's PFF grade of 55.8 is the lowest by 15 points in the BAL secondary. (Wiggins 70.7, A. Washington 80.3, Humphrey 81.0, Hamilton 90.1)

Stephens would be the highest graded PIT CB.

But let's talk about BAL's awful secondary.

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
3 day(s) 7 hour(s) ago - hide

The Steelers have lost 5 straight playoff games with their opponents scoring an average of 40.4 PPG.

They've been outscored 66-0 in the first quarter of those games.

The Steelers haven't scored more than 17 points in over a month.

The Ravens have scored at least 30 points in 11 of the past 14 weeks.

Mentioned often: Steelers have won 8 of last 10 vs. BAL.

Not mentioned as often: Lamar Jackson was unavailable for 6 of those 10 games.

Per PFF, 138 CBs have played 100 or more coverage snaps this season.

Cam Sutton is ranked 128th.

Donte Jackson is ranked 132nd.

Of 223 CBs, Joey Porter Jr. (55.0) is PFF's 160th-ranked in overall grade.

Brandon Stephens's PFF grade of 55.8 is the lowest by 15 points in the BAL secondary. (Wiggins 70.7, A. Washington 80.3, Humphrey 81.0, Hamilton 90.1)

Stephens would be the highest graded PIT CB.

But let's talk about BAL's awful secondary.

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
3 day(s) 7 hour(s) ago

@Mr. Bitter 

Wouldn't count on Freiermuth doing much. In his two matchups vs. BAL this season, he has a combined 5 receptions for 30 yards.



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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
3 day(s) 9 hour(s) ago

Do you think CLE would still draft Ward at 1.2 if the rumored Stefanski/Cousins reunion comes to fruition? Even if CLE acquires Cousins, I would still consider QB to be CLE's greatest need without hesitation.

Interesting to see Kenneth Grant flirting with the top 10 in your mock. Seems like many are down on him, and I'm not sure why. Athletic freak that should kill at the Combine.

Good to see a NoHeroes mock so early in the process. Look forward to more.

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
3 day(s) 11 hour(s) ago

@woo hoo 

I think Tomlin is a very good coach. He just doesn't have the horses to hang with BAL, regardless of how much his players may like him. These are two teams going in opposite directions.

No defense can stop the BAL offense right now - Flowers or no Flowers. The '24 BAL offense is 2nd-best EPA all-time behind only the '99 Greatest Show On Turf Rams. BAL is 1st in EPA/pass and EPA/rush, while the defense has been 1st in EPA/pass and #1 in total EPA from weeks 11-18. The Ravens are the most complete team in the NFL by every metric, and what few early-season weaknesses they had are now strengths.

Tomlin squeezed what he could from Russell Wilson, but we all kinda knew reality would set in as far as that goes. I doubt Wilson will just be able to turn that midseason form back on against a focused BAL team that is peaking in all three phases. Pat Freiermuth isn't enough. There's a reason Tomlin is hinting at getting Justin Fields more involved in this game. The Wilson magic has run it's course and isn't returning.

Pickens is petulant and unreliable. We're talking about a WR1 with more career unsportsmanlike conduct penalties and fumbles than TDs. I seriously think he's more likely to get frustrated and disqualified than get loose in this matchup. The BAL secondary has been throwing blankets on WR1s much better than Pickens since Week 11.

John Harbaugh teams are rarely caught off guard, and I can't see that happening in this spot. Not with the way last season ended vs. KC. The Steelers are likely walking into a buzzsaw, and Vegas knows it.

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
3 day(s) 12 hour(s) ago

@DoctorJ 

You must be crazy. Pickens is a clutch late-season and playoffs performer. I mean, have you already forgotten his monster 11 TGT/5 REC/50 YD/0 TD/1 LOST FMB performance in PIT's 31-17 loss to BUF in last season's WC?

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
3 day(s) 13 hour(s) ago

"Pickens over 55.5 receiving yards...Pickens will bounce back in an easy matchup"

This feels familiar...

From Week 17 picks:

"I believe the Ravens are an overrated team because of their poor pass defense, and that poor pass defense could allow the Texans to achieve a back-door cover if needed...Nico Collins over 92.5 receiving yards. Collins is a beast who will be force fed against Baltimore's poor secondary"

Nico Collins was the most expensive player on your DFS contest slate Week 17, which was understandable since he was going up against such an awful secondary. It's not like he was going up against a pass defense that features two All-Pros and has been rated first in the NFL since Week 11 or something.

Final: BAL 31 HOU 2

Nico Collins: 3/59/0

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
4 day(s) 21 hour(s) ago

"Ravens-Steelers games are almost always close, and now Baltimore may be the team missing it's No. 1 receiver"

In your analysis of the PIT/BAL matchup, this is the only sentence where I thought, "fair enough". Every other angle is either 7 weeks outdated or the result of getting lost in the labyrinth of that Group A/Group B thought experiment.

I believe in being thorough, so I don't find the Group A/Group B tangents as ridiculous as some commenters, but when you start saying stuff like "PIT could have kept it closer if Russell Wilson hadn't fumbled near the GL, thrown that pick-6, etc", you're officially in "can't see the forest for the trees" territory.

Lost in your analysis are the simple facts that Wilson is regressing badly and PIT is a team in collapse. Not sure how this is being missed, as late-season lulls and quick playoff exits are nothing new for the Tomlin Steelers. Meanwhile, the Ravens - a team built for January football like no other - is peaking in all three phases at just the right time, as John Harbaugh teams often do.

"Pickens will be available this time, which is huge because it allows the Steelers to exploit Baltimore's biggest weakness, which is the secondary"

I have tried to get through to Private Pyle, but I have failed.

Me and some other commenters have tried to correct you on your "Ravens awful secondary" angle, but that outdated narrative just continues to roll along for some reason, so I'll just leave some stuff here:

  • Since Week 11 - when Marlon Humphrey returned to health and took over the roaming slot CB role from Kyle Hamilton, with Hamilton replacing the completely washed Marcus Williams at FS, and Ar'Darius Washington taking on the full-time SS role - the Ravens have allowed the league's fewest points and fewest net yards p/game.
  • Since Week 11, the BAL secondary has allowed an NFL-low passer rating of 75.5 and NFL-low EPA p/dropback. 
  • Since Week 11, BAL's secondary is PFF's highest-graded. Humphrey is the highest graded CB, and Hamilton the 2nd-highest graded S. Both are Pro-Bowlers and All-Pro considerations.
  • Since Week 11, Wiggins is the 2nd-highest graded rookie CB. He's steadily improved with increasing PT, blossoming from an early-season rotational liability into a 92% snap count corner that blankets Malik Nabers and is a pick-6 threat QBs are learning to avoid.
  • Since Week 11, Brandon Stephens (the only member of the secondary that can even be considered a "weakness") has been targeted the 5th-most among NFL CBs, and he's held up admirably. His 67.7% catch rate allowed is better than more heralded CBs like Pat Surtain and Jalen Ramsey.

You'll argue that BAL's defensive improvement has come against bad teams, but HOU - a team that you are currently suggesting could upset the Chargers and make an '08 Cardinals-type SB run - was just held to zero points by the BAL defense.

But "Pickens will be available this time".

Yeah, and?

Like most things in PIT right now, the Wilson-to-Pickens connection is clearly broken. Pickens hasn't had more than 4 catches or 74 yards in a game since mid-November, and is coming off a miserable goose egg performance. Most importantly: Pickens is the kind of player that - when the going gets tough - is more likely to drop two passes, have a meltdown and get ejected than step up with a huge performance. It's who he is. Is Pickens really the guy you want as a foundational angle to your Pick of The Month?

"The Steelers should be better against the run than that. They'll do a better job of limiting Henry"

Are you sure about that?

PIT gave up 220 rushing yards to BAL two weeks ago. What's changed? Other than Mike Tomlin now hinting at getting Justin Fields in there to try to get something going. (Which would likely just mean even more PIT TOs and BAL clock-killing ground dominance.)

The facts are that PIT has been leaky against the run recently and are going up against a historically dominant BAL rushing attack that has routinely gashed top-10 run defenses this season (271 yards vs. BUF, 249 vs. TB with Vea, 166 vs. PHI, etc).

BAL doesn't really have a weakness right now. Everything is falling into place at the right time. I mean, even Justin Tucker, who missed 8 FGs and 2 XPs before BAL's bye week, hasn't missed a kick since. 

BAL 35 PIT 20

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
7 day(s) 18 hour(s) ago
The Rams will beat the Vikings in the WC round.
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7 day(s) 20 hour(s) ago

@Barnowl1952 

Beck and Ewers seem like future NFL backups. Just feels like Day 2 stuff like Colt McCoy, Eric Zeier, Deshone Kizer, Cody Kessler, etc, all over again. If there's any chance Ward or Sanders can develop into a franchise QB, CLE has to choose one. Otherwise, the organization will just continue spinning it's wheels.

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
8 day(s) 20 hour(s) ago

Another final Sunday of the regular season. As with tradition, I've already donned the black armband and had a moment of silence. The buffalo wings and chili fries are en route.

Here's what I got on early games:

ATL -7.5 NO BET I was leaning CAR here, as the Panthers have shown periodic spunk under Canales, and the possibility of a blowout in TB could render ATL deflated by the late-3rd quarter. Then I saw CAR's injury report.

With Josey Jewell and Jaycee Horn ruled OUT, ATL could easily name their score against CAR's practice squad D. With no Hubbard and injuries on the right side of the O-line, peppering Thielen with a million targets probably won't be enough to keep up. Still, I'm not touching this one.

DAL +7 LIGHT Was gonna pass here, then the line moved from 4.5 to 7.

Weird stuff happens in this rivalry. Much more importantly, I think WAS is overrated. Have for a while. Hail Marys...Hurts going down early...WAS has been very lucky and are a deceiving 11-5, IMO.

WAS has nothing but vague seeding to play for, and avoiding PHI may (wrongly) be of little concern having just defeated them. Parsons vs. that banged-up O-line...no Lattimore (ever?)...I wouldn't be shocked if DAL wins SU.

CHI +10 NO BET As with WAS, I think seeding motivation will be minimal - at best - for GB. On the road and with zero pressure in a meaningless game, my hunch is we finally see Caleb Williams and those WRs do enough damage for the backdoor cover. However, the CHI run defense is such crap that GB's backup RBs could simply control the game start-to-finish. The "but those CHI WRs!/backdoor" logic has burned me all year, so I'm laying off.

JAX +3.5 NO BET ATS/LIGHT ON OVER  I was sniffing around an IND fade until Josh Hines-Allen was ruled OUT. The IND defense has totally packed it in. I mean, Drew Lock?? That sin is unforgivable.

Brian Thomas Jr. - motivated by that Pro Bowl snub - could go nuclear on a rusty JuJu Brents. Still, those angles aren't enough for an ATS wager on a Doug Pederson team.

BUF -3.5 LIGHT  A scroll of angles favor BUF.

  • Mayo is a dead man walking in NE. The Pats - looking to finally sever all ties with the Belichick era - will fire him tomorrow, and I'm not even sure if his players like him enough to send him out on a positive note.
  • NE currently will be able to auction of the 1st pick in the draft for a boatload of much-needed rebuilding ammo, or simply pick a superstar in Travis Hunter. This has to be baked in.
  • Many of BUF's backups are better than the starters the Pats are currently trotting out. A few of those backups (Von Miller, Dawson Knox) will be motivated by hefty contract incentives.
  • Ray Davis smash spot. 100% guaranteed.

PHI -2 NO BET  Same deal here as BUF/NE. PHI's backup O-line and secondary may be better than NYG's current starters, and guys like Calcaterra, Ojomo, etc, could start for NY.

From what I've seen of Tanner McKee in preseason action, I would take him over Lock if I was building a team.

Still, no bet. Because Malik Nabers. Nabers only needs targets to kill any bet on PHI here, and - motivated by his race with Bowers for those rookie receiving records - he's undoubtedly going to get them.

NO +14  NO BET ATS/LIGHT ON OVER  Pure gut here. Every ounce of pressure is on TB. Given their current RB and interior O-line situation, NO won't even attempt to run vs. Vea and crew. However, I don't trust that banged-up TB secondary - even against Rattler, MV-S, Moreau, etc. - to prevent a backdoor.

TEN -1.5 NO BET  Obvious 1st half/2nd half appeal here, but also obvious Will Levis, so I'll pass.

The Titans have already defeated HOU at full health back in November, and HOU honestly hasn't been very good since then. With Tony Pollard playing and motivated by nearly $500,000 in very attainable bonuses, TEN feels like the right side.

Happy hunting fellas.

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8 day(s) 20 hour(s) ago - hide

Another final Sunday of the regular season. As with tradition, I've already donned the black armband and had a moment of silence. The buffalo wings and chili fries are en route.

Here's what I got on early games:

ATL -7.5 NO BET I was leaning CAR here, as the Panthers have shown periodic spunk under Canales, and the possibility of a blowout in TB could render ATL deflated by the late-3rd quarter. Then I saw CAR's injury report.

With Josey Jewell and Jaycee Horn ruled OUT, ATL could easily name their score against CAR's practice squad D. With no Hubbard and injuries on the right side of the O-line, peppering Thielen with a million targets probably won't be enough to keep up. Still, I'm not touching this one.

DAL +7 LIGHT Was gonna pass here, then the line moved from 4.5 to 7.

Weird stuff happens in this rivalry. Much more importantly, I think WAS is overrated. Have for a while. Hail Marys...Hurts going down early...WAS has been very lucky and are a deceiving 11-5, IMO.

WAS has nothing but vague seeding to play for, and avoiding PHI may (wrongly) be of little concern having just defeated them. Parsons vs. that banged-up O-line...no Lattimore (ever?)...I wouldn't be shocked if DAL wins SU.

CHI +10 NO BET As with WAS, I think seeding motivation will be minimal - at best - for GB. On the road and with zero pressure in a meaningless game, my hunch is we finally see Caleb Williams and those WRs do enough damage for the backdoor cover. However, the CHI run defense is such crap that GB's backup RBs could simply control the game start-to-finish. The "but those CHI WRs!/backdoor" logic has burned me all year, so I'm laying off.

JAX +3.5 NO BET ATS/LIGHT ON OVER  I was sniffing around an IND fade until Josh Hines-Allen was ruled OUT. The IND defense has totally packed it in. I mean, Drew Lock?? That sin is unforgivable.

Brian Thomas Jr. - motivated by that Pro Bowl snub - could go nuclear on a rusty JuJu Brents. Still, those angles aren't enough for an ATS wager on a Doug Pederson team.

BUF -3.5 LIGHT  A scroll of angles favor BUF.

  • Mayo is a dead man walking in NE. The Pats - looking to finally sever all ties with the Belichick era - will fire him tomorrow, and I'm not even sure if his players like him enough to send him out on a positive note.
  • NE currently will be able to auction of the 1st pick in the draft for a boatload of much-needed rebuilding ammo, or simply pick a superstar in Travis Hunter. This has to be baked in.
  • Many of BUF's backups are better than the starters the Pats are currently trotting out. A few of those backups (Von Miller, Dawson Knox) will be motivated by hefty contract incentives.
  • Ray Davis smash spot. 100% guaranteed.

PHI -2 NO BET  Same deal here as BUF/NE. PHI's backup O-line and secondary may be better than NYG's current starters, and guys like Calcaterra, Ojomo, etc, could start for NY.

From what I've seen of Tanner McKee in preseason action, I would take him over Lock if I was building a team.

Still, no bet. Because Malik Nabers. Nabers only needs targets to kill any bet on PHI here, and - motivated by his race with Bowers for those rookie receiving records - he's undoubtedly going to get them.

NO +14  NO BET ATS/LIGHT ON OVER  Pure gut here. Every ounce of pressure is on TB. Given their current RB and interior O-line situation, NO won't even attempt to run vs. Vea and crew. However, I don't trust that banged-up TB secondary - even against Rattler, MV-S, Moreau, etc. - to prevent a backdoor.

TEN -1.5 NO BET  Obvious 1st half/2nd half appeal here, but also obvious Will Levis, so I'll pass.

The Titans have already defeated HOU at full health back in November, and HOU honestly hasn't been very good since then. With Tony Pollard playing and motivated by nearly $500,000 in very attainable bonuses, TEN feels like the right side.

Happy hunting fellas.

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
8 day(s) 17 hour(s) ago

Late Games:

SF +4.5 HEAVY  I expect Kyler Murray to put up a nice stat line. He will need to run more with all the RB injuries, and earns $750,000 in vidja scratch with 50 rushing yards and 1 rushing TD. Also - he will be playing from behind. I've done well fading the overrated Cardinals during the 2nd half of the season and won't stop now.

Josh Dobbs can be an efficient PG when the task isn't too large. The ARI defense qualifies. I expect nice games from Guerendo and one of Pearsall/Jennings in a comfortable SF win.

KC +11  NO BET  I worry a bit about how Nix and a young DEN team will respond in a must-win spot, especially after that draining OT loss to CIN. The Broncos still feel like a "next year" team to me.

LAR +7.5 NO BET  I know that Geno Smith stands to pocket $6 million with 185 passing yards, a 69.7 completion rate and a win, but I just have a hunch that Garoppolo, Corum and Atwell keep this within 7. Sean McVay likes this type of challenge.

LAC -7 NO BET  All logic says the Chargers are the right side, but I'm fearful enough of a Bowers eruption to lay off.

MIA +1.5  LIGHT  Morgan Moses is OUT, while Terron Armstead is playing. Chop Robinson is cleared for takeoff. 

The Jets are directionless. MIA has motivation and I'm getting points.

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8 day(s) 22 hour(s) ago

@Baird 

I gave up a while ago on plays of any kind with Harris/Warren. PIT's insistence on feeding Harris so he can not break tackles and plod his way to 3 YPC is baffling.

Also, PIT needs to find a chump team to take Pickens off their hands this offseason. Ultra-talented, but the dude is a poisonous moron.

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12 day(s) 9 hour(s) ago

@Baird 

They're insisting Rodgers will start. The dude has this organization held hostage. I have to think the leash will be short though.

O-line injuries could be key here. Looks like MIA could be without Armstead and Lamm (IR today). However, DNPs for Moses and AV-T is just as concerning for the Jets. If they can't go, Chop Robinson could one-man wreck the right side of the NYJ O-line.

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12 day(s) 10 hour(s) ago

@petermwb 

Gotta disagree, Jeanty is a stud and one of the few elite prospects in this draft. PSU - who is much more talented than Boise St. to begin with - totally keyed on Jeanty, and Boise was down 14-0 in the blink of an eye. Hard for any RB to thrive in that scenario. Even so, Jeanty still got 100+ and eventually got into a lather, busting runs of 10+, 20+, and contributing as a receiver. He's a 1st-rounder. Feldman Freak List (6.23 strength-to-body weight ratio, squats 600+ lbs, clocked at over 22 MHP in-game). He's bigger/stronger than Jahmyr Gibbs, who went 12th overall.

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12 day(s) 11 hour(s) ago

@Barnowl1952 

CLE could easily pick 1st overall. They'll undoubtedly get walloped by BAL, and the NYG can't jump CLE (SOS).

NE can't score, is very injured, and BUF has a quality depth chart. Backups like Ray Davis, Ty Johnson, Dawson Knox, Curtis Samuel, Van-Pran Granger, Dawuane Smoot, DeWayne Carter, Dorian Williams, Cole Bishop, etc, aren't much worse than many of NE's current starters.

HOU will play their starters, but for how long? Even if the HOU starters were to play the entire game (they won't), there's no guarantee they beat TEN. The Texans have looked awful since mid-November, even losing at home to these same Titans 32-27. HOU's interior offensive and defensive lines suck, while the interior offensive and defensive line are where TEN is strongest.

Long way to go in the pre-draft process, but it seems like picking Sanders at 1.1 would be a very Cleveland Browns thing to do.



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13 day(s) 14 hour(s) ago

I'm interested to know the success rate for teams that plan to rotate QBs. Two such scenarios this week (CLE - DR-T/Zappe, TEN - Levis/Rudolph). I can't imagine the record is good - rotating QBs is a clear message to the rest of the team that the organization is directionless.

Speaking of directionless...I wouldn't touch IND right now. There's frustration in that locker room and I fear guys are checking out. The lack of tackling effort vs the Giants was jaw-dropping. Defenders were flat-out jogging during those Nabers TDs.

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15 day(s) 20 hour(s) ago - hide

For those thinking about betting the 49ers, SF is down to their 4th-string LT, LG Aaron Banks is OUT, and RT Colton McKivitz (who sucks anyway) went from LP on THU to DNP on FRI. Here's the likely starting SF O-line vs. the Lions:

LT Charlie Heck (LOL)

LG Nick Zakelj (???)

C Jake Brendel

RG Dominick Puni

RT Austin Pleasents (???)

I pride myself on autistically thorough NFL Draft research, and I have never heard of Zakeelj and Pleasents. This O-line is going to make Josh Paschal and Levi Onwuzurike look like All-Pros.

Conversely, the only remaining SF pass-rusher worth a damn (Bosa) will be erased by Penei Sewell. I keep reading about how DET/SF is going to be a highly competitive shootout; I just don't see it. The somehow still overrated Niners are gonna get Jahmyr Gibbsed to death.

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
13 day(s) 22 hour(s) ago

@Baird 

I'm on it. I'm currently going game-by-game identifying the players that should be most motivated by hefty performance bonuses lol.

Nice call on SF. The Niners left it all out there.

I'm worried a bit about that DET defense vs. MIN in WK 18, but Goff excels vs. the blitz and has historically performed laser surgery on the Flores defense, so I'm guessing the Lions simply outscore MIN. Might get frisky with a wager depending on Aaron Jones' injury status. 

I also like that MIN is already a trendy upset pick across media outlets. DET feeds off being underestimated, especially at home. 

That said, I'm already eying a potential LAR/DET divisional round matchup as a fade spot for DET.

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15 day(s) 20 hour(s) ago

For those thinking about betting the 49ers, SF is down to their 4th-string LT, LG Aaron Banks is OUT, and RT Colton McKivitz (who sucks anyway) went from LP on THU to DNP on FRI. Here's the likely starting SF O-line vs. the Lions:

LT Charlie Heck (LOL)

LG Nick Zakelj (???)

C Jake Brendel

RG Dominick Puni

RT Austin Pleasents (???)

I pride myself on autistically thorough NFL Draft research, and I have never heard of Zakeelj and Pleasents. This O-line is going to make Josh Paschal and Levi Onwuzurike look like All-Pros.

Conversely, the only remaining SF pass-rusher worth a damn (Bosa) will be erased by Penei Sewell. I keep reading about how DET/SF is going to be a highly competitive shootout; I just don't see it. The somehow still overrated Niners are gonna get Jahmyr Gibbsed to death.

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For those thinking about betting the 49ers, SF is down to their 4th-string LT, LG Aaron Banks is OUT, and RT Colton McKivitz (who sucks anyway) went from LP on THU to DNP on FRI. Here's the likely starting SF O-line vs. the Lions:

LT Charlie Heck (LOL)

LG Nick Zakelj (???)

C Jake Brendel

RG Dominick Puni

RT Austin Pleasents (???)

I pride myself on autistically thorough NFL Draft research, and I have never heard of Zakeelj and Pleasents. This O-line is going to make Josh Paschal and Levi Onwuzurike look like All-Pros.

Conversely, the only remaining SF pass-rusher worth a damn (Bosa) will be erased by Penei Sewell. I keep reading about how DET/SF is going to be a highly competitive shootout; I just don't see it. The somehow still overrated Niners are gonna get Jahmyr Gibbsed to death.

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Baird 72 Posts (40 )
14 day(s) 8 hour(s) ago

@Mr. Bitter... "I pride myself on autistically thorough"

Put that to work in week 18. Meaningless games w/ gems to be had. Some bad public angles OR big favs resting. Find us some diamonds in the rough.

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For those thinking about betting the 49ers, SF is down to their 4th-string LT, LG Aaron Banks is OUT, and RT Colton McKivitz (who sucks anyway) went from LP on THU to DNP on FRI. Here's the likely starting SF O-line vs. the Lions:

LT Charlie Heck (LOL)

LG Nick Zakelj (???)

C Jake Brendel

RG Dominick Puni

RT Austin Pleasents (???)

I pride myself on autistically thorough NFL Draft research, and I have never heard of Zakeelj and Pleasents. This O-line is going to make Josh Paschal and Levi Onwuzurike look like All-Pros.

Conversely, the only remaining SF pass-rusher worth a damn (Bosa) will be erased by Penei Sewell. I keep reading about how DET/SF is going to be a highly competitive shootout; I just don't see it. The somehow still overrated Niners are gonna get Jahmyr Gibbsed to death.

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Baird 72 Posts (40 )
14 day(s) 12 hour(s) ago

@Mr. Bitter - sadly, I finished a small 25/150 w/ SF +9.5 simply because.

Game means nothing to road team and (hopefully) a lot to home team. Jennings, Kittle & Deebo have really good matchups. Shanna pride?

*For the record, I have DET +3.5 next week

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16 day(s) 20 hour(s) ago

I'd appreciate any angles anyone can offer on DEN/CIN. I'm basically certain that the Chargers TCB @NE, so not only is DEN/CIN crucial to the playoff hopes of the Bengals and Broncos, it's crucial to MIA, IND and SEA (SOS tiebreaker). I feel like I've turned over every stone, yet am still pretty much 50/50 on this one.

Advantage DEN:

  • DEN elite scoring defense, pressure rate and sacks ranking. Nick Bonitto (11.5 sacks), Jonathon Cooper (8.0) and Zach Allen (5.0, 33 QB hits) have been quietly excellent and should thrive, especially if Mims can't go and CIN has to throw Cody Ford or Devin Cochran into the fire at RT. Burrow has been effective in avoiding pressure, climbing the pocket, and completing last-moment, rabbit-out-of-the-hat no-look passes and such, but is that sustainable vs. the Broncos?
  • Chase vs. Surtain. We obviously can't assume any CB will shut down Chase, but if there's a CB physically and stylistically designed to do it, it's Surtain. He's done it before. (Held Chase to 4 targets/1 catch/3 yards in their last matchup.)
  • CIN short week/DEN 9-days rest. Extra rest (22-9), off a loss (52-29), following TNF (10-4) and consecutive road games are spots where Payton has historically done well. Just trends, but it's something.
  • CIN MUST WIN. You'd think this would be a motivational advantage for CIN, but I think it could easily be a negative in this spot. DEN hasn't clinched, is desperate to make the playoffs for the first time since '15, and can't assume victory vs. KC in Week 18 (even if the KC stars only play a few drives), so it's not as if there's no motivation for the Broncos. CIN has been pretty much in must-win mode for a while now, yet have only answered the bell against bad teams. The bottom line is it feels like CIN is still seen as the team that always digs themselves out of the hole, and the assumption that they will do it again is still being baked into their Vegas pricing. Thing is, this just isn't the same team that pulled it off in recent seasons.  Been there, done that vets like Reader, Hubbard, Wilson, Awuzie, Bates, Mixon, J. Williams, etc, have been replaced in the CIN lineup by downgrades, rookies and 2nd-year guys. Will they step up?

ADVANTAGE CIN:

  • CIN ranks 29th in success rate vs. RBs, but does DEN have a good RB? Will someone emerge from DEN's kinda icky RBBC to take advantage? If so, DEN wins. The Broncos had a good lather going with the running game vs. the Chargers - building an 11-point lead - then inexplicably abandoned it. That can't happen again because...
  • ...DEN can't get roped into a shootout with CIN. The Bengals don't have a CB that can deal with Courtland Sutton - so he's gonna get his numbers - but DEN will need more if the game goes back-and-forth. Marvin Mims and his recent poor man's Deebo Samuel routine doesn't feel like enough. CIN's recent success has been predicated on roping teams with bad QBs (Rush/Levis/DT-R) into shootouts, then letting their bad defense gather the inevitable basket of turnovers. So the most important question in this game is...
  • Is Bo Nix that good, really? Since a turnover-heavy patch a few weeks back, Nix has been more efficient recently and put up decent numbers, but the air yards p/attempt have declined. Are the Broncos hiding him? With a gun to my head, I'm thinking the ride ends for CIN today, but I fear a shootout in which Nix is exposed.
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I'd appreciate any angles anyone can offer on DEN/CIN. I'm basically certain that the Chargers TCB @NE, so not only is DEN/CIN crucial to the playoff hopes of the Bengals and Broncos, it's crucial to MIA, IND and SEA (SOS tiebreaker). I feel like I've turned over every stone, yet am still pretty much 50/50 on this one.

Advantage DEN:

  • DEN elite scoring defense, pressure rate and sacks ranking. Nick Bonitto (11.5 sacks), Jonathon Cooper (8.0) and Zach Allen (5.0, 33 QB hits) have been quietly excellent and should thrive, especially if Mims can't go and CIN has to throw Cody Ford or Devin Cochran into the fire at RT. Burrow has been effective in avoiding pressure, climbing the pocket, and completing last-moment, rabbit-out-of-the-hat no-look passes and such, but is that sustainable vs. the Broncos?
  • Chase vs. Surtain. We obviously can't assume any CB will shut down Chase, but if there's a CB physically and stylistically designed to do it, it's Surtain. He's done it before. (Held Chase to 4 targets/1 catch/3 yards in their last matchup.)
  • CIN short week/DEN 9-days rest. Extra rest (22-9), off a loss (52-29), following TNF (10-4) and consecutive road games are spots where Payton has historically done well. Just trends, but it's something.
  • CIN MUST WIN. You'd think this would be a motivational advantage for CIN, but I think it could easily be a negative in this spot. DEN hasn't clinched, is desperate to make the playoffs for the first time since '15, and can't assume victory vs. KC in Week 18 (even if the KC stars only play a few drives), so it's not as if there's no motivation for the Broncos. CIN has been pretty much in must-win mode for a while now, yet have only answered the bell against bad teams. The bottom line is it feels like CIN is still seen as the team that always digs themselves out of the hole, and the assumption that they will do it again is still being baked into their Vegas pricing. Thing is, this just isn't the same team that pulled it off in recent seasons.  Been there, done that vets like Reader, Hubbard, Wilson, Awuzie, Bates, Mixon, J. Williams, etc, have been replaced in the CIN lineup by downgrades, rookies and 2nd-year guys. Will they step up?

ADVANTAGE CIN:

  • CIN ranks 29th in success rate vs. RBs, but does DEN have a good RB? Will someone emerge from DEN's kinda icky RBBC to take advantage? If so, DEN wins. The Broncos had a good lather going with the running game vs. the Chargers - building an 11-point lead - then inexplicably abandoned it. That can't happen again because...
  • ...DEN can't get roped into a shootout with CIN. The Bengals don't have a CB that can deal with Courtland Sutton - so he's gonna get his numbers - but DEN will need more if the game goes back-and-forth. Marvin Mims and his recent poor man's Deebo Samuel routine doesn't feel like enough. CIN's recent success has been predicated on roping teams with bad QBs (Rush/Levis/DT-R) into shootouts, then letting their bad defense gather the inevitable basket of turnovers. So the most important question in this game is...
  • Is Bo Nix that good, really? Since a turnover-heavy patch a few weeks back, Nix has been more efficient recently and put up decent numbers, but the air yards p/attempt have declined. Are the Broncos hiding him? With a gun to my head, I'm thinking the ride ends for CIN today, but I fear a shootout in which Nix is exposed.
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WFDevTeam 71 Posts (20 )
16 day(s) 16 hour(s) ago

@Mr. Bitter 

I run a bit paranoid/cynical and from that vantage point I felt the league wanted Burrow in the playoffs and so there has been some help in keeping them alive.  However, if Walt is right about Cincinatti having the flu it may be this is as much season as they are going to get out of Burrow this year.  

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18 day(s) 15 hour(s) ago

@DoctorJ 

Pickett practiced and spoke to the media. He'll probably start.

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19 day(s) 20 hour(s) ago

PIT +2  Chris Jones is OUT. George Pickens is active. That KC OT situation vs. Watt/Highsmith. Haven't liked what I've seen from Pacheco since he's returned. Liking the UNDER and Steelers to win SU on a Boswell FG. DEN beats CIN on Saturday, then KC clinches HF @DEN Week 18 when Jones and Humphries return.

BAL -6.5  Mixon is fading, HOU interior O-line is a wreck, and BAL is nails vs. the run regardless. The BAL secondary (not poor) will contain last-man-standing Nico Collins. Absences up the middle at all three defensive levels of the HOU defense (Fatukasi/Al-Shaair/Ward) rolls out the red carpet for Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry. Huge game from Jackson tightens the MVP gap with Josh Allen.

GL to all and Merry Xmas gents.

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19 day(s) 22 hour(s) ago

@Baird 

I'd take NO's ranking vs. TEs with a grain of salt. The LB crew is the strength of their defense, but a lot of their success vs. TEs has been circumstantial.

Right off the bat, the NFC South is a below-average TE division. The NO TE defense has been bolstered by 4 games vs. CAR (where TEs are an ever-injured hodgepodge of afterthoughts) and ATL (where Pitts has basically become the Invisible Man). In NO's 51-27 blowout loss to TB, Otton was getting in a lather and had an early TD before sitting out, and Godwin was gobbling up every target in sight anyway (11/125/2).

The NO non-division schedule has featured DAL (Ferguson OUT), DEN (practice squad-level TEs rarely targeted), LAR (Higbee OUT), NYG (Theo Johnson OUT), WAS (Ertz left early-1st quarter w/concussion), LAC (Hurst OUT/Dissly injured), and GB (blowout/Kraft unneeded as Packers basically did whatever they want). 

In their only three games vs. healthy, dangerous TEs that demand 2nd/3rd option volume, the Saints have given up 9/81 to David Njoku, 11/99 to Kelce (9/70)/Gray, and 10/170 (!!) to Dallas Goedert. Bowers is basically WR1 for LV and should go bonkers.

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19 day(s) 23 hour(s) ago

@Baird 

DEN +9 looks comfy. Agree with all of your angles, and I'm just getting the sense that the ride ends here for CIN. No team with a defense that putrid gets a Hollywood ending - they're more likely to get a season-ending, mundane home L that encapsulates everything that was wrong from the beginning.

Also: Courtland Sutton is in a serious smash spot vs. a CIN defense that hemorrhages vs. WR1s. Nix-to-Sutton alone could keep DEN within a score.

(Side note: Hubbard, Rankins, Wilson injury availability could change things, but I'll be surprised if any one of them plays - especially Hubbard.)

To answer your rhetorical question: The Saints bet is very scary. You've definitely got marbles.

Rattler is comically bad. I can kinda see a scenario where the Saints uglify the game with some clock-killing Kendre Miller action, but Miller's complete no-show vs. GB is concerning, as are the injuries to Lucas Patrick and Erik McCoy. I get that the Saints were outclassed from the jump @GB and game script was never in Miller's favor, but he just didn't look good at all.

I'm hearing Olave may play. I'd be shocked. So many concussions in a relatively short time...you almost have to shut him down, right?

NO vs. LV is crap vs. crap - so anything is possible - but my gut says it may just be a "team with the best player wins" type-game and Bowers goes nuclear.

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20 day(s) 0 hour(s) ago

@Nagurski 

The "Ravens have a poor pass defense" narrative has been bothering me for a while now because it's incorrect and seems to be foundational to the "Ravens are overrated" argument, so allow me to pile on.

Since Marlon Humphrey's return to full health and Kyle Hamilton's switch from the slot to FS (around Week 10, as you said), Humphrey has been the NFL's top-graded CB and the BAL pass defense is #1 in EPA allowed per dropback. Nate Wiggins has improved by the week (smothered Malik Nabers) and Ar'Darius Washington has been a revelation at SS.

With Tank Dell out, Nico Collins -who hasn't really looked right since returning from injury anyway - may have a hard time getting loose.

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20 day(s) 21 hour(s) ago
And that's why I usually don't bet crap vs. crap. Penalties, fumbles, drops...JAX is a talented team that Pederson and his staff haven't developed whatsoever. Dinged a clean two-week run for me.
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22 day(s) 19 hour(s) ago

@Baird 

Also decided to go light on JAX+2.5. I usually avoid crap vs. crap, but LV is really crappy. Gotta take the points.

Save for the total meltdown @DET a few weeks ago, JAX has been keeping games close since mid-October. The O-line is healthy, Etienne/Bigsby are showing signs of life, Brenton Strange has actually been an upgrade from Evan Engram, and there's still good, young talent peppered along that JAX defensive depth chart. The Raiders are as poorly coached as JAX, and with Maxx Crosby out for the year, they have absolutely nothing on defense.

I think Brian Thomas Jr. gets loose vs. that awful LV secondary. Tyson Campbell should be able to contain a banged-up Jacobi Meyers, so my only concern is Bowers going off for 150 yards/2 TDs or something and burning me. Possible, but I'm gonna risk it. GL and enjoy

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22 day(s) 21 hour(s) ago

@Karensman 

I'm with you on DET/Montgomery. I don't think Walt is giving Montgomery enough credit for what he brings to the Lions. Yeah, the Lions can beat you in many different ways and Montgomery is just a RB, but Sonic and Knuckles running behind that O-line is DET's foundational character. Knuckles is a heart-and-soul guy, and while the Lions are incredibly resilient, I don't think it's safe to assume Craig Reynolds just steps in and seamlessly replaces him.

I also think the "that's just more touches for Jahmyr Gibbs" logic is faulty. Gibbs is obviously more talented/explosive than Montgomery, but he's also a 5-9/195ish RB that punches above his weight with his aggressive running style. He's most effective in bursts, which the Lions obviously know because they prioritized signing Montgomery to replace Jamaal Williams as a high-level tag-team partner for Gibbs.

Gibbs may go bonkers today against a CHI front seven that's weak vs. RBs, but I fear increased usage will eventually lead to inefficiency and maybe even Gibb's name being added to DET's scrolling injury list.

CHI +6.5 is the only dog I'm interested in today, and that's only if Braxton Jones and Teven Jenkins play. I know the CHI offense has been discombobulated recently, but I just can't ignore that Moore/Allen/Odunze vs. DET CBs mismatch as a backdoor recipe.

Otherwise, I'm just laying the points with ATL and GB this week. I'm all in on the Falcons QB change, and I don't see how NO/GB is anything else but a primetime blowout. GL

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24 day(s) 21 hour(s) ago

@Charles Beagle 

I get that CHI drafted Odunze to ensure Caleb Williams won't be lacking for quality targets anytime soon, but my God would Chop Robinson or Dallas Turner have looked good opposite Montez Sweat. Pace may have even been able to grab either after trading down with a team desperate to move up ahead of MIN for McCarthy or Nix. Pace kinda blew that one, IMO.

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The Herbert injury and LA's lack of any real HFA scare me, but this is exactly the type of game recent Chargers editions would lose and Harbaugh was hired to win.

The last time DEN played a team with a decent QB was back on Nov. 10 on the road against Mahomes and the Chiefs. DEN lost that game 16-14, and I think we may see a similarly close game tonight.

Neither team can run. Courtland Sutton should get his numbers, but he is DEN's only real weapon. Tarheeb Still has stepped up, so the Hart/Molden injuries aren't terrifying. McConkey could have a big game as he avoids boundary-anchored Surtain, and Hayden Hurst might make an impact fresh off the IR.

LAC 23 DEN 20

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
27 day(s) 15 hour(s) ago

You're seriously overthinking the Rams/motivation angle.

"If the Rams win this game and the next one....provided SEA beats MIN, which is very possible...I don't know if the Rams will know this..."

MIN beating SEA is also very possible, and I'm sure the Rams are aware that they'll be alone in first place if that happens and they TCB vs. the Jets.

The Jets have done well the past two weeks because Mike McDaniel and Doug Pederson happen to be two of the few HCs that don't have a pronounced advantage over Jeff Ulbrich and company. Sean McVay won't let the Rams walk into an ambush.

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28 day(s) 21 hour(s) ago

Week 15 notes:

  • The Detroit Lions will continue their string of bad luck until they do the right thing and wear the silver pants.
  • Not buying Aidan Hutchinson returning in time for the Super Bowl. No way. That leg was shattered and wrapped around like the snake around the tree in a Garden of Eden painting.
  • That Pat Surtain injury looms large. The Broncos are going to blow this, aren't they?
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28 day(s) 22 hour(s) ago

@Osmodiar 

Agree, but is there a tackle worth taking in the top-10?

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28 day(s) 22 hour(s) ago

Tyler Warren in the 3rd RD is nuts. Probable top-25 pick, high-2nd RD floor.

Where is Josh Simmons? Easy to forget because of the injury, but might be the only pure OT prospect worthy of top-15 consideration in this draft. (Campbell and Banks profile as guards.)

Can't see Jihaad Campbell still on the board mid-2nd RD. Absolute monster.

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1 month(s) 2 day(s) ago - hide

When the Rams and Niners met in Week 3, the Rams were without Nacua and Kupp, while SF still had Mason, Aiyuk, Trent Williams and Hargrove...and the Rams won 27-24 as 6.5 point dogs.

The Rams have 1 turnover in the last four games, while the Niners have 8.

On career snaps Brock Purdy has played with Trent Williams in the lineup, the SF offense has averaged 0.18 EPA per play. On snaps taken without Williams in the lineup, the EPA drops to 0.0.

Since 2023, SF averages 2 TDs p/game when Trent Williams is injured. The Niners are 1-2 without Williams this season. In 2023, Purdy had 28 TD/2 INT with a healthy Williams, and 3 TD/9 INT without.

Sean McVay is 6-2 on short rest.

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Baird 72 Posts (40 )
29 day(s) 20 hour(s) ago

@Mr. Bitter Your take on WAS/NO may be right. Saints O-line is healthy and could grind out a close game. Kool-aid may shadow McLaurin & Ekeler is out so it could easily be a grinder game. As long as WAS wins I'm good.

I also like...
KC/CLE under
Phi +0.5
Pacheco > props
Added more to Justice Hill > 12.5 rush

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1 month(s) 2 day(s) ago

When the Rams and Niners met in Week 3, the Rams were without Nacua and Kupp, while SF still had Mason, Aiyuk, Trent Williams and Hargrove...and the Rams won 27-24 as 6.5 point dogs.

The Rams have 1 turnover in the last four games, while the Niners have 8.

On career snaps Brock Purdy has played with Trent Williams in the lineup, the SF offense has averaged 0.18 EPA per play. On snaps taken without Williams in the lineup, the EPA drops to 0.0.

Since 2023, SF averages 2 TDs p/game when Trent Williams is injured. The Niners are 1-2 without Williams this season. In 2023, Purdy had 28 TD/2 INT with a healthy Williams, and 3 TD/9 INT without.

Sean McVay is 6-2 on short rest.

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When the Rams and Niners met in Week 3, the Rams were without Nacua and Kupp, while SF still had Mason, Aiyuk, Trent Williams and Hargrove...and the Rams won 27-24 as 6.5 point dogs.

The Rams have 1 turnover in the last four games, while the Niners have 8.

On career snaps Brock Purdy has played with Trent Williams in the lineup, the SF offense has averaged 0.18 EPA per play. On snaps taken without Williams in the lineup, the EPA drops to 0.0.

Since 2023, SF averages 2 TDs p/game when Trent Williams is injured. The Niners are 1-2 without Williams this season. In 2023, Purdy had 28 TD/2 INT with a healthy Williams, and 3 TD/9 INT without.

Sean McVay is 6-2 on short rest.

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
1 month(s) 0 day(s) ago

@Baird 

For what it's worth, I think the Rams win out and take the NFC West. It all points to that SEA/LAR Week 18 game, which I think the Rams win (assuming they stay healthy). McVay kinda owns the Seahawks. I like SEA, but they're inconsistent and I gotta go with a dialed-in Stafford over Geno in a for-all-the-marbles game.

I like the vibe the Rams have going right now. They're balanced and efficient. I was worried that their young defensive front seven might fade, but then it occurred to me that Verse, Fiske, Turner, Young are grown men. Very smart of Snead/McVay to target mature, experienced prospects in the draft during their on-the-fly defensive rebuild.

Side notes: Turner is a stud. Elite interior pressure metrics. His matchup vs. the SF interior D-line (good zone run-blockers, bad in pass pro) was another big reason I liked the Rams over SF.

Kinda liking that All-Kam safety duo you got going. Kinchens was a steal.

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1 month(s) 0 day(s) ago

@Baird 

This seems like a gift. Could easily be the type of game script where Henry and Hill feast for 3 quarters and even Keaton Mitchell gets in there in the 4th quarter and gets 15 yards and a TD.

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When the Rams and Niners met in Week 3, the Rams were without Nacua and Kupp, while SF still had Mason, Aiyuk, Trent Williams and Hargrove...and the Rams won 27-24 as 6.5 point dogs.

The Rams have 1 turnover in the last four games, while the Niners have 8.

On career snaps Brock Purdy has played with Trent Williams in the lineup, the SF offense has averaged 0.18 EPA per play. On snaps taken without Williams in the lineup, the EPA drops to 0.0.

Since 2023, SF averages 2 TDs p/game when Trent Williams is injured. The Niners are 1-2 without Williams this season. In 2023, Purdy had 28 TD/2 INT with a healthy Williams, and 3 TD/9 INT without.

Sean McVay is 6-2 on short rest.

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
1 month(s) 1 day(s) ago

@Baird 

I started the week on the right foot with small plays on the Rams and the UNDER. (Weather, sketchy SF offense without Trent Williams.) Not sure why so many were on the Niners in that spot - the Rams and Niners are plainly going in opposite directions.

Been mostly fading SF and ARI for a while now. Been thinking for a few months that the NFC West would come down to LAR and SEA.

Don't have a feel for CIN/TEN. Shootout potential if Pollard plays, but rain/wind might be factors. Calvin Ridley vs. Josh Newton screams mismatch, but that's assuming Levis doesn't lay an egg. He's overdue.

No reason why BAL won't give the Giants a snot-bubble beating.

My gut says the Saints give WAS a game. I'm worried WAS's bye week may have derailed that little bit of momentum they got back after dropping three straight. Then again, it also allowed Daniels more time to heal up.

Kamara and Kendre Miller should be able to bit off chunks behind Erik McCoy and keep the game low-scoring and tight. Daron Payne is QUESTIONABLE and Jer'Zhan Newton is putrid vs. the run.

I also worry that the effectiveness of the Kingsbury scheme will continue it's annual pattern of late-season fades.

Will probably give my plays tomorrow. GL

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When the Rams and Niners met in Week 3, the Rams were without Nacua and Kupp, while SF still had Mason, Aiyuk, Trent Williams and Hargrove...and the Rams won 27-24 as 6.5 point dogs.

The Rams have 1 turnover in the last four games, while the Niners have 8.

On career snaps Brock Purdy has played with Trent Williams in the lineup, the SF offense has averaged 0.18 EPA per play. On snaps taken without Williams in the lineup, the EPA drops to 0.0.

Since 2023, SF averages 2 TDs p/game when Trent Williams is injured. The Niners are 1-2 without Williams this season. In 2023, Purdy had 28 TD/2 INT with a healthy Williams, and 3 TD/9 INT without.

Sean McVay is 6-2 on short rest.

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Baird 72 Posts (40 )
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@Mr. Bitter - great info right there! Crazy FG game was odd. Now I'm hoping LAR can win the div & make a playoff run. The last second FG killed my middle, but most of my $ was on Rams so all good.

I want to love TEN this week but Pollards D-D-L is sketchy. Brown, Rankins & the LB crew are out (CIN is starting an undrafted LB so Chig & Pollard could do well). I'm backing off a little awaiting Pollard news.

My biggest tease is WAS -1 and next is BAL -8.5. I cant imagine the Saints kill me like they did vs CLE, but any given Sunday. GL

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@Baird 

That is so embarrassing.

Might be 6-0. Then again, the Jets need their annual late-season/meaningless win that ensures they drop out of range for a decent QB in the draft.

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@Baird 

Hey, don't give DET too much credit. It was Eberflus that beat CHI by 3.

I'm with Walt. BUF wins SU.

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@DoctorJ 

My only beef with this analysis is the defensive stats angle. DET's defensive stats have to be taken with a huge grain of salt now that their front seven has been decimated by injury. I mean, Glenn's scheming is top-notch, but when you're down to starting guys like Al-Quadin Muhammad, Pat O'Connor, Jonah Williams, Ezekial Turner...that's gotta catch up to you.

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Quinn Ewers will lose his job to Arch Manning and transfer.
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@Mr. Bitter the sad thing is Arch couldn't beat Ewers out for the job. At least he's not like most of these kids and transfer when they lose the competition. They all want to star immediately and even though they've been paid they leave,because they're just a bunch of entitles children. The portal and NIL has made college football a professional league. I'm surprised they have to go to school ,i suppose alot don't and that's why they love the SEC with their extremely low academic standards.
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@Karensman 

I don't think you're mistaken. Walt's assessment of CIN/DAL is pretty spot-on. The Bengals just aren't a good team.

That opening CIN -6 line is nuts to me. The only explanations I can think of are:

DAL has been complete dogsh*t at home vs. any team with a pulse this season, or...

...Vegas anticipates a "pride" performance from CIN (which I might buy if CIN hadn't been so flat when it actually mattered and Zac Taylor wasn't such an ineffective HC), or...

...Vegas thinks bettors might ignore all the factors that make DAL the right side and boil it all down to "Burrow is so much better than Rush".

Pissed-off Burrow going nuclear while Rush lays an egg is definitely on the table, but Burrow has been going nuclear all season and the Bengals still lose. Like Walt said - CIN has almost nothing positive going on beyond Burrow/Chase/Higgins, while a lot of positive stuff is going on for DAL right now relative to their record. DAL will probably have Diggs and Bland back at CB...Orlando Brown Jr. is DOUBTFUL just as Parsons is getting into a lather...Lamb staying positive and gutting it out...Brandin Cooks coming back...Jake Ferguson coming back just as Logan Wilson goes on IR...DeMarvion Overshown emerging as a stud...hell, even Mazi Smith has been grading out well lately. I gotta think DAL stays within a FG.

I'm kinda liking SF to cover vs. your Bears. Even with all the injuries, one of those aforementioned pride games is something I could see from SF in this one, especially off two humbling road losses. Just can't see a Shanahan team quitting. The Bears are also pretty banged-up themselves.

If the Niners can run on anybody right now, it's CHI, and if SF can control any team's run game right now, it's CHI. (De'Andre Swift and Roschon Johnson are trending OUT.) I'm thinking a back-to-basics, 23-17ish win for SF behind a strong performance from Isaac Guerendo.

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@Baird 

LV absolutely can't run the ball. They shouldn't even waste their time trying vs. TB. I imagine Irving/White/Tucker will find success from jump, so O'Connell should be flinging it early and often. The TB pass D is susceptible.

The Bucs are awful defending the slot. If Tykee Smith is OUT again, Meyers could practically be running against air. Bowers will do his usual Bowers things, so there's real shootout potential in this one - assuming LV puts forth a little effort. I don't see why they wouldn't - it's not as if they're coming down from anything. They were never in contention to begin with. Pierce and his staff are awful, but the players like them, so I can't imagine LV just full-on rolling over.

I'm sniffing around an O'Connell/Meyers/Bowers stack for DFS tournaments, maybe with an Otton runback. (Two-TE uniqueness/Mike Evans hurt, QUESTIONABLE).

I'm with you on the Giants emerging with the #1 pick. Miserable vibes in that locker room. Drew Lock is now operating behind 3rd-string OTs...that's going to get really ugly. Schoen and Daboll feel like dead men walking.

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My top play this week is ATL+1.5 at home. I think the Falcons win SU. Maybe even comfortably.

It's assumed that Jim Harbaugh's strong running game/strong defense foundation will travel well vs. a team like ATL, but way too many cracks are forming in that foundation to ignore.

For Harbaugh's formula to succeed, Gus Edwards will need to bite off chunks, and I don't see that happening. He looks totally cooked. (Yeah, maybe Hassan Haskins/Kimani Vidal get plugged in and do some damage, but I wouldn't count on it.)

As improved as the LAC O-line has been, ATL's O-line is better - especially with Drew Dalman healthy again. ATL should be able to control the LOS against an overrated and injured LAC run defense.

The rash of LB injuries leaves it up slowpokes like Nick Niemann to deal with Bijan Robinson swinging out of the backfield. This does not bode well for the Chargers. Even if Derwin James plays closer to the LOS, that would mean trash like Marcus Maye getting too much run at safety. Either way, there's going to be ample space for ATL's speedy targets.

Cousins should be pretty cozy in the pocket. Bosa and Mack are playing hurt and seriously dragging ass toward the season's finish line. London, Mooney and maybe even Pitts should all eat vs a very susceptible LAC secondary. (Asante Samuel Jr. is out for the season. Alohi Gilman and Cam Hart are OUT, while Kristian Fulton is predictably regressing. Derwin James can't be everywhere at once.)

I would have liked Herbert to keep pace in a shootout a few weeks ago, but not now. Not without Dobbins, and not with Quintin Johnston regressing back to BUST form after an unsustainably efficient start to the season. Ladd McConkey might even be banged up. (Beware the rookie wall.)

Harbaugh's records ATS off a loss and in cross-country games are impressive, but they're still just trends and are outweighed by a lot of emerging problems for the Chargers - especially in a game sandwiched between the Harbaugh Bowl and @KC in prime time next week. ATL has TB on their ass and should show up.

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Baird 72 Posts (40 )
1 month(s) 10 day(s) ago

@Mr. Bitter - ATL was def the right side. Cousins single handedly blew that game. How bad is he slumping? Watch him try so hard in MIN (2 picks? 350 yds? IDK). The letdown from LAC was real - they gave up 5 sacks to the weakest pass rush. Luckily I teased +7 so I'm happy, but was hoping for a win cause the div race is getting too close. Now I have to find the right game to close out this teaser...


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My top play this week is ATL+1.5 at home. I think the Falcons win SU. Maybe even comfortably.

It's assumed that Jim Harbaugh's strong running game/strong defense foundation will travel well vs. a team like ATL, but way too many cracks are forming in that foundation to ignore.

For Harbaugh's formula to succeed, Gus Edwards will need to bite off chunks, and I don't see that happening. He looks totally cooked. (Yeah, maybe Hassan Haskins/Kimani Vidal get plugged in and do some damage, but I wouldn't count on it.)

As improved as the LAC O-line has been, ATL's O-line is better - especially with Drew Dalman healthy again. ATL should be able to control the LOS against an overrated and injured LAC run defense.

The rash of LB injuries leaves it up slowpokes like Nick Niemann to deal with Bijan Robinson swinging out of the backfield. This does not bode well for the Chargers. Even if Derwin James plays closer to the LOS, that would mean trash like Marcus Maye getting too much run at safety. Either way, there's going to be ample space for ATL's speedy targets.

Cousins should be pretty cozy in the pocket. Bosa and Mack are playing hurt and seriously dragging ass toward the season's finish line. London, Mooney and maybe even Pitts should all eat vs a very susceptible LAC secondary. (Asante Samuel Jr. is out for the season. Alohi Gilman and Cam Hart are OUT, while Kristian Fulton is predictably regressing. Derwin James can't be everywhere at once.)

I would have liked Herbert to keep pace in a shootout a few weeks ago, but not now. Not without Dobbins, and not with Quintin Johnston regressing back to BUST form after an unsustainably efficient start to the season. Ladd McConkey might even be banged up. (Beware the rookie wall.)

Harbaugh's records ATS off a loss and in cross-country games are impressive, but they're still just trends and are outweighed by a lot of emerging problems for the Chargers - especially in a game sandwiched between the Harbaugh Bowl and @KC in prime time next week. ATL has TB on their ass and should show up.

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My top play this week is ATL+1.5 at home. I think the Falcons win SU. Maybe even comfortably.

It's assumed that Jim Harbaugh's strong running game/strong defense foundation will travel well vs. a team like ATL, but way too many cracks are forming in that foundation to ignore.

For Harbaugh's formula to succeed, Gus Edwards will need to bite off chunks, and I don't see that happening. He looks totally cooked. (Yeah, maybe Hassan Haskins/Kimani Vidal get plugged in and do some damage, but I wouldn't count on it.)

As improved as the LAC O-line has been, ATL's O-line is better - especially with Drew Dalman healthy again. ATL should be able to control the LOS against an overrated and injured LAC run defense.

The rash of LB injuries leaves it up slowpokes like Nick Niemann to deal with Bijan Robinson swinging out of the backfield. This does not bode well for the Chargers. Even if Derwin James plays closer to the LOS, that would mean trash like Marcus Maye getting too much run at safety. Either way, there's going to be ample space for ATL's speedy targets.

Cousins should be pretty cozy in the pocket. Bosa and Mack are playing hurt and seriously dragging ass toward the season's finish line. London, Mooney and maybe even Pitts should all eat vs a very susceptible LAC secondary. (Asante Samuel Jr. is out for the season. Alohi Gilman and Cam Hart are OUT, while Kristian Fulton is predictably regressing. Derwin James can't be everywhere at once.)

I would have liked Herbert to keep pace in a shootout a few weeks ago, but not now. Not without Dobbins, and not with Quintin Johnston regressing back to BUST form after an unsustainably efficient start to the season. Ladd McConkey might even be banged up. (Beware the rookie wall.)

Harbaugh's records ATS off a loss and in cross-country games are impressive, but they're still just trends and are outweighed by a lot of emerging problems for the Chargers - especially in a game sandwiched between the Harbaugh Bowl and @KC in prime time next week. ATL has TB on their ass and should show up.

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1 month(s) 11 day(s) ago
I stand by this call. ATL wins handily if Kirk Cousins doesn't perform like he's Earl Morrall/SBIII-level on the take.
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Sharps on the Jets as Ian Rapoport reports Aaron Rodgers won't return to the Jets next season lol.

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My top play this week is ATL+1.5 at home. I think the Falcons win SU. Maybe even comfortably.

It's assumed that Jim Harbaugh's strong running game/strong defense foundation will travel well vs. a team like ATL, but way too many cracks are forming in that foundation to ignore.

For Harbaugh's formula to succeed, Gus Edwards will need to bite off chunks, and I don't see that happening. He looks totally cooked. (Yeah, maybe Hassan Haskins/Kimani Vidal get plugged in and do some damage, but I wouldn't count on it.)

As improved as the LAC O-line has been, ATL's O-line is better - especially with Drew Dalman healthy again. ATL should be able to control the LOS against an overrated and injured LAC run defense.

The rash of LB injuries leaves it up slowpokes like Nick Niemann to deal with Bijan Robinson swinging out of the backfield. This does not bode well for the Chargers. Even if Derwin James plays closer to the LOS, that would mean trash like Marcus Maye getting too much run at safety. Either way, there's going to be ample space for ATL's speedy targets.

Cousins should be pretty cozy in the pocket. Bosa and Mack are playing hurt and seriously dragging ass toward the season's finish line. London, Mooney and maybe even Pitts should all eat vs a very susceptible LAC secondary. (Asante Samuel Jr. is out for the season. Alohi Gilman and Cam Hart are OUT, while Kristian Fulton is predictably regressing. Derwin James can't be everywhere at once.)

I would have liked Herbert to keep pace in a shootout a few weeks ago, but not now. Not without Dobbins, and not with Quintin Johnston regressing back to BUST form after an unsustainably efficient start to the season. Ladd McConkey might even be banged up. (Beware the rookie wall.)

Harbaugh's records ATS off a loss and in cross-country games are impressive, but they're still just trends and are outweighed by a lot of emerging problems for the Chargers - especially in a game sandwiched between the Harbaugh Bowl and @KC in prime time next week. ATL has TB on their ass and should show up.

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Baird 72 Posts (40 )
1 month(s) 13 day(s) ago
@Mr. Bitter - the drop off from Dobbins to Edwards cant be ignored and the Harbaugh bowl on MNF naturally leads to a letdown from LA. Playing at home, off a bye screams ATL. I hope you're right because I have a big ticket for ATL to win their div. GL
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@Baird 

"I suck at betting AZ & NO "

Same here. But I think I may have finally figured the Cardinals out. (As for the Saints - they had their little, new rah-rah coach, pre-bye fun. I think the Rams beat them in workmanlike fashion.)

ARI GM Monti Ossenfort and Jonathan Gannon were great hires. They're establishing culture the right way and the arrow is pointing up for the organization. So when they face teams that are poorly coached (those pre-bye Ws vs. MIA, CHI and NYJ perfect examples), they TCB - especially if the opponent struggles vs. the run. Otherwise, the Cardinals can be had. They just don't have a very talented depth chart (especially on defense) and it catches up to them when they face teams with a good coaching staff. You take away Conner, and the offense becomes little more than McBride-or-bust, as none of the WRS have been able to create separation or YAC this season. Petzing's scheme has grown predictable and has shackled Murray. (One game above 21 rushing yards since Week 5.) The interior O-line is a glaring weakness and was fully exposed by SEA.

The Vikings are extremely well-coached and nails vs. the run. ARI doesn't match up well at all. As for the Flores blitz vs. Murray angle, I'm calling for variance. I would bet MIN if not for the Pace injury and my distrust of Sam Darnold.

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@Baird 

Niners are just decimated, while the Bills are getting Milano back and are near full health (Kincaid). The only pro-SF angles I can muster up are Shanahan's sparkling post-Halloween record, it's must-win time for the Niners (while BUF has the AFC East in the bag), Jaylon Moore has been somewhat decent in relief of Trent Williams at LT, and SF gets a boost with Purdy likely back. (Although Walt's "bet against the obviously injured QB" angle is rock solid.) Niners are always a threat with McCaffrey, Samuel, Kittle and Jennings (although I'm beginning to wonder if McCaffrey's wheels are shot), but BUF just has such a pronounced advantage in the trenches in this one. On top of all that...lake-effect snow. This just might be a lost season for the Niners. Any given Sunday - but it takes a good amount of mental gymnastics to not think BUF is a clean play, especially teased to SU. 

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@xndrshadow 

Milroe might be the Anthony Richardson, "upside" prospect.

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@carettirichard 

I'm not sure about Sanders as a #1 overall-type prospect, but we all know about the draft and QB supply-and-demand. I think he'll separate from the pack - I don't think Ward or Milroe won't go as high as currently projected after they get picked apart during the pre-draft process. Pretty sure JAX sticks with T-Law, but you never know, and it's fun to speculate.

For what it's worth, I think Mason Graham would be a great fit for JAX. They need an interior difference-maker to complement Josh Hines-Allen and Travon Walker. Graham would also be a clean, "culture" pick for the new coaching staff. If JAX gets the 1st pick and can move down a few spots for a bunch of picks and still get graham, that would be tits.

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@Karensman 

Ohio resident here. Seems like the Burrow/wrist quotes are being overblown a bit. He basically just said that - in the past - cold weather has had an affect on his injuries, which is just kinda "duh". He said he "could have been better" throwing in practice, but "I/we could have been better" is his weekly default answer for everything, so I wouldn't read too much into that.

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@Walt

For your MIA/GB PPB & SGP, are you sure there will be enough passing goodness to go around for the RBs, TEs and Watson?

Forecast at Lambeau is calling for freezing temps, 10-15mph sustained winds with 25mph gusts. Both teams have been leaning into the run heavily lately and the weather forecast should only turn that up to 11. The MIA pass defense controls lid-lifters (4th-fewest YPPA), while the GB offense over the last four weeks is tops in rush rate in the red zone. Deep passes and RZ jump balls are how Watson makes his money. Just feels like the kinda game script that leaves Watson with one of his 2-20-0 stat lines. 

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@Baird 

How dare you pooh-pooh the great Dan Skipper!

I want so badly to throw some cabbage at CHI. Offense is ramping up a bit since the Waldron firing and return of some O-line starters...Moore/Allen/Odunze vs. those DET CBs...could be CHI's Super Bowl...it all screams back door. Then I remember Campbell vs. Eberflus. And like you said, CHI may be running on fumes.

The injuries don't seem to be letting up for SF. New reports say Fred Warner has a fractured ankle (would explain those uncharacteristic missed tackles lately), and Trent Williams was just seen in the SF locker room using a knee scooter. Reportedly, he "can barely walk" and is probably dealing with an Achilles injury. Not good. Both are likely trending more toward trips to the IR than returns to health.

Niners are just getting eaten alive by the injury bug. Beginning to wonder if there's something to that Super Bowl Loser Curse stuff.

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@Baird 

Hubbard sucks so, so bad. Two starts: 7 pressures allowed to TB, and 12 (!!!) pressures allowed to PIT in WK 8. Parsons is cleared for takeoff.

Your UNDER is definitely the play. Could we see a 0-0 tie?

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I don't buy the Cardinals as a great team. Screw the net adjusted EPA.

Great teams aren't flat off a bye when they're going into a divisional matchup for first place.

Kyler Murray isn't playing well right now. I recently read an article describing Murray as "deluxe Daniel Jones". That might not be too far off. Six seasons in, and we're still waiting for Murray to blossom.

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@akowahl

LDE L.J. Collier

NT Roy Lopez

RDE Dante Stills

LOLB Baron Browning

WLB Kyzir White

MLB Mack Wilson Sr.

ROLB Zaven Collins

LCB Sean Murphy-Bunting

SS Dadrion Taylor-Demerson

FS Budda Baker

RCB Starling Thomas V

NB Garrett Williams

With the exception of Budda Baker and maybe Garrett Williams, there isn't a player on this depth chart that would start for the MIN defense. Gannon/Rallis have done a remarkable job of overcoming injuries and scheming to the strengths of what they have to work with, but schematic smoke-and-mirrors can mask such a glaring lack of talent for only so long.

ARI would have lost to SEA - bye or no bye - because their recent success isn't sustainable. The Chargers are the only team ARI has beaten that likely makes the playoffs, and ARI's only convincing pre-bye wins were at home over CHI and NYJ - teams that were at-or-near rock bottom and can't stop the run.

Six years into the career of a former #1 overall pick, "efficient" shouldn't be okay. Especially when efficient really just means dump-offs to Trey McBride when the running game is clicking. Where is that Murray dual-threat action? Where is the connection with MHJ? We've only seen flashes, so why should I assume Murray will just turn it on when teams bottle up Conner, as SEA did and MIN will likely do?

All that said...you could easily be right about ARI winning. As you suggested, the Vikings are kinda fraudulent, too, and Sam Darnold is never to be trusted. (For what it's worth, the Ivan Pace Jr. injury and rock-the-boat signing of Daniel Jones has me leaning ARI ATS.) But a win over MIN wouldn't convince me that ARI is a great or even good team, and only push them that much more into overrated - not underrated - territory, IMO.

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I don't buy the Cardinals as a great team. Screw the net adjusted EPA.

Great teams aren't flat off a bye when they're going into a divisional matchup for first place.

Kyler Murray isn't playing well right now. I recently read an article describing Murray as "deluxe Daniel Jones". That might not be too far off. Six seasons in, and we're still waiting for Murray to blossom.

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I don't buy the Cardinals as a great team. Screw the net adjusted EPA.

Great teams aren't flat off a bye when they're going into a divisional matchup for first place.

Kyler Murray isn't playing well right now. I recently read an article describing Murray as "deluxe Daniel Jones". That might not be too far off. Six seasons in, and we're still waiting for Murray to blossom.

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@Mr. Bitter The bye is a doubled edged sword, it works great if you are coming off a loss or multiple losses. Gives you time to get things in order.

Doesn't work so hot if it kills your momentum and are on a win streak like the Cards were.

To say that a team isn't good/great because they lost against a good divisional team (that you yourself view as under rated) is a little short sighted and nothing for the Cards to hang their head about.

Also Kyler didn't have a good game vs a Seattle defense that's pretty good, but before that during their 4 game win streak there are plenty of articles and opinions that he's been playing his most efficient football of his career. 

Cards will win outright and expose the Vikings this week.

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TEN +6 is tempting. Jayden Daniels is injured and struggling, and WAS could be without Andrew Wylie, Brian Robinson and Austin Ekeler.
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TEN +6 is tempting. Jayden Daniels is injured and struggling, and WAS could be without Andrew Wylie, Brian Robinson and Austin Ekeler.
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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
1 month(s) 18 day(s) ago

@Karensman 

Agreed - tough week. I like KC, TB, BUF and DEN to TCB, but those spreads are right about where they should be.

I really want to continue fading ARI (overrated, IMO), but - as you said - MIN is also overrated.

MIN just put Ivan Pace, Jr. on I.R. - an underrated blow to that defense. Phillips/Cashman/Pace has been a run defense Bermuda Triangle all season. Interested to see if cracks emerge and Conner finds a little daylight.

TEN will probably be my play this week. I know that banking on Levis to string together any amount of mistake-free games is asking for trouble, but I think there is still a little meat on that WAS bone. Daniels seems to be favoring his ribs, and we're at that point in the season where even the best of rookies meet the wall. I'm also not too concerned about TEN's situation at CB, as McLaurin is WAS's only threat at WR and can be doubled.

During NFL Draft season, my concern with Daniels as a prospect was that his playing style/lack of body armor would lead to annual injuries and late-season regression. Still believe that to be the case. He's just so skinny.

Agree on HOU/JAX. HOU is overvalued, but are we supposed to bet on Mac Jones with Will Anderson and Danielle Hunter in his face?

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TEN +6 is tempting. Jayden Daniels is injured and struggling, and WAS could be without Andrew Wylie, Brian Robinson and Austin Ekeler.
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Karensman 26 Posts (11 )
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@Mr. Bitter : I agree that TEN + 6 appears tempting. I don't know if Daniels is still hurt or that Wash is regressing to the mean, but I'm not interested in wagering on them at this time. Not thrilled with this week's schedule; I couldn't lay 4 points with DAL against a good college team and there appears to be traps all over the place. Are you confident in laying 3 with the RAMS on the road in NO ? I'm leaning towards the Cards + 3 1/2 but that is more a fade against the overrated Vikings than an endorsement of the Cards. The wrong team is favored in the Bengal-Steeler game, and I'm interested in the DOL + 3 1/2 but not at - 3. I'm not confident that the TEXANS should be favored by - 5 on the road but want no part of the Jags without Lawrence. Tough week to lay points and not really a great week to take underdogs. Might be a good week to watch !     
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@v2micca 

Ardent Jets fan here. You are 100% right. The Jets are receiving nothing but negative press right now. If/when Rodgers is benched or injured, the switch to Tyrod Taylor might actually push the Jets toward underrated territory. Even at 35, Taylor probably still has functional mobility - which Rodgers absolutely doesn't anymore.

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TEN +7.5

CHI +3

NE +7.5

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@Baird 

The more I think about it, the more confident I am that this is going to be a "bad Jameis" game. All the signs are there: Crappy weather...Chubb and Conklin shells of their former selves...no viable LT vs. a PIT defense that has been letting T.J. Watt pick his spots against both edges...Minkah Fitzpatrick waaay overdue for a pick-six...a potential feast for Harris/Warren vs. a JO-Kless CLE defense that has forgotten how to tackle...it could get ugly. So much so that PIT might get comfortably ahead, ease up, and let Winston feed Njoku for some garbage time goodness or something. I like PIT and the OVER.

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@Baird 

I'm glad you said that about the Cowboys. Thought I was alone in sensing emerging value with DAL, even with their two-headed abomination at QB.

As you said, a lot of key contributors are filtering back into the DAL lineup. However, Jake Ferguson, Zach Martin and Tyler Smith not practicing has me worried that it may just be one step forward, two steps back for the Cowboys, and that would be in line with the Murphy's Law-type season they're having. (I read that parts of the AT&T Stadium roof were falling onto the field Monday. Things are literally falling apart for Jerry Jones.)

Still, I'm very tempted to take the plunge with DAL +10.5 @WAS. At this juncture, I think DAL might be sneaking into undervalued territory, while I'm confident WAS is a bit overvalued right now. (Daniels is hurt and barely moving around back there. He hasn't been right in weeks.) If I'm right, I wanna get out ahead of it.

DAL has been taking snot-bubble beatings at home this season, but they're keeping games within six points on the road...rivalry game where DAL officially has nothing to lose and WAS may be feeling pressure to keep up in the WC race...just feeling a DAL cover if Martin and Smith play.

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@Karensman 

Nick Chubb is a month shy of his 29th birthday. That's old relative to RBs, and Chubb is a very old 29. Last season's leg injury was vomit-inducing, and he had an equally gross leg injury in college.

Chubb is the heart and soul of the team - so his return has some short-term "good vibes" value - but he just doesn't look the same. Given his age/mileage, I think it would be a miracle if he ever will.

As for Stafford - yeah, everyone in the NFL is playing hurt to some degree, but not all injuries are equal. From what I've gathered, Stafford's main issue is his back - and back issues are often career-killers. Stafford is approaching 37. He's still a high-level QB, but It just feels like he's on borrowed time.

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@carettirichard 

Once Doug Pederson is fired, I'm guessing JAX will sell the fan base on the idea that Pederson's awful coaching, a bad O-line and injuries are what have been holding Lawrence back. Pretty sure he gets a fresh start in '25. He just turned 25.

I don't think JAX is a long ways from being competitive. (Especially in the AFC South.) They have some talented young building blocks at important positions (WR1, EDGE1 and 2, CB1). With better coaching and some O-line and DT upgrades they could rebound in '25.

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@Baird 

The rain/wind should be advantageous for PIT. It only strengthens the Boswell>Hopkins angle.

I think Nick Chubb may be cooked; if Winston has to throw it around, the TOs could easily pile up for CLE. Harris/Warren were biting off chunks vs. BAL, so running on CLE should be no problem.

I'm liking CHI as a home dog. Very often, mid-season coordinator firings are just a case of somebody taking the fall for organization-wide problems, but in the case of Shane Waldron, I think he really was the problem. The Bears should improve going forward, and I don't trust Sam Darnold in this spot.

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@Baird 

Yeah, you're right. Hopkins was pretty good for a while after replacing York, but he's gone right back to being the same bad kicker he was before coming to CLE. Meanwhile, Boswell is a machine. Even if Myles Garrett dominates vs. PIT (which he usually does), the game likely comes down to ST. Betting CLE is probably getting too cute.

Any early leans?

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@Baird 

Freakin' Taysom Hill, man. Feels like he's been around since 2002, and he's one of those Mormon mission BYU grads...how is he not like 47 years old? Spends most of his time injured, only popping up to go nuclear when it ruins NO's draft position and absolutely screws me in betting and DFS tournaments. I wish he'd just stop.

Just piss-poor special teams and overall tackling from CLE. Rare quiet game from Myles Garrett. I still think CLE was the right side, although I probably underrated the absence of JO-K. He would have come in handy in limiting Hill.

I'm probably a glutton for punishment, but I'm sniffing around CLE +4 at home vs. PIT. Feels like a trap game for the Steelers.

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@Baird

Keep in mind that when I handicap the Rams, the possibility that Stafford is more injured than anyone realizes is always baked in.

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@Baird 

As a Rams fan, how do you like their WC chances? I'm having trouble getting a read on them. Unprepared and mistake-prone was what I expected from MIA, not the Rams. Just feels like there's some angle I'm missing that might have them overvalued right now. Youth? So many of their key contributors are 1st/2nd year guys...

I think the Havenstein injury could be a real problem vs. the Pats. Keion White and Deatrich Wise are a quietly dominant tag team at LDE.

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PIT, IND win SU.

LAC, ATL, NYJ win in blowouts.

Feeling TB and HOU covers.

Happy hunting, gentlemen.

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@Baird 

Everyone is acting as if ATL winning the NFC South is a forgone conclusion. Even with ATL's sweep of TB, I'm not so sure about that.

ATL's next three: @DEN/LAC/@MIN

TB's next three: @NYG/@CAR/LV

The Bucs could easily pull ahead of ATL in the NFC South as soon as early December.

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PIT, IND win SU.

LAC, ATL, NYJ win in blowouts.

Feeling TB and HOU covers.

Happy hunting, gentlemen.

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PIT, IND win SU.

LAC, ATL, NYJ win in blowouts.

Feeling TB and HOU covers.

Happy hunting, gentlemen.

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Baird 72 Posts (40 )
2 month(s) 0 day(s) ago

@Mr.Bitter - "TB is still undervalued"

I agree completely
1. They have wins against good teams - WAS, DET & PHI
2. The losses arent bad - DEN (letdown game), ATL (should have split) + BAL, KC & SF

The bye came at the right time - Evans & Tykee should be back by 11/24, Otton has come on strong and the fight in Mayfield is impressive. The rest of their schedule is cake, except @ LAC.

Remaining favored - NYG, CAR (twice), LVR, DAL & NO.

TB > 8.5 wins (2U to win 2)

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@Karensman 

Betting the Browns is icky, but a few things:

Stefanski is a solid coach, IMO. No coach would have succeeded in the situation management forced upon him with the Watson signing.

I don't know much about Darren Rizzi, but I know this: Teams almost always get a pronounced one-game bump upon an in-season coaching change. Even with that bump, the Saints still would have lost at home to an obviously flat ATL squad had it not been for some last-minute clock mismanagement by the Falcons and three missed Younghoe Koo FGs. Like Marquez Valdez-Scantling's stat line, that victory was an obvious fluke.

Kamara may be the best offensive weapon in this matchup, but beyond him, it's crap like MVS, Foster Moreau and some guy called Mason Tipton for the Saints. I'll take Njoku, a healthy Chubb/Ford RB tag team, and the Tillman/Jeudy/Moore WR trio over what the Saints are trotting out any day. (Small sample size, but since CLE traded Amari Cooper, Cedric Tillman is second only to Ja'Marr Chase by many WR performance metrics.) The Saints - already down C Erik McCoy - may also be without the left side of their O-line for this one. The NO offensive depth chart is a disaster.

As for MIA - I'm not sure how legit Monday's win was. Not sure if a game vs. a team as untalented and poorly-coached as LV will provide us any clarity, either. Kinda wait-and-see with MIA. Tua isn't pushing the ball downfield, Tyreek is obviously hurt, and the Austin Jackson injury means a RT Kendall Lamm vs. LDE Maxx Crosby glaring mismatch. A Raiders win wouldn't shock me, but I'm not touching that game.

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@Karensman 

Almost forgot: KC/BUF - Leaning KC but probably just gonna sit back and enjoy. The media consensus seems to be that KC has smoke-and-mirrored their way to 9-0 and their fun stops Sunday. Fair, but I wonder if that narrative is just enough blood in the water for Reid/Mahomes. Also not liking BUF possibly down Amari Cooper, Keon Coleman and Dalton Kincaid in an all-hands-on-deck game.

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@Karensman 

Regarding the CIN/LAC spread - I think bettors are still leaning hard into the "this is a must-win for the Bengals" angle. It's an obvious and fair take, but it can be argued that CIN has been close to (or even in) must-win territory for weeks now, yet they continue laying eggs. Expecting this week to be the week the Bengals suddenly flip the switch is starting to feel like definition of insanity from a betting perspective. Joe Burrow is playing as well as can possibly be expected, yet CIN keeps coming out flat and losing. The CIN O-line sucks, the defense is a one-man show (Hendrickson), and Zac Taylor just can't light a fire under his team while being a miserable in-game manager. All the evidence says that CIN just isn't very good, yet bettors are falling into the trap of valuing them by what they should be instead of what they are.

My top play is CLE. I think the Browns win SU - maybe even comfortably - so getting any points is a gift. The Saints used up all their "We finally fired our crappy coach!" mojo last week and will come down to earth. Matchup wise, all signs point to a "Good Jameis" game (CLE offense getting healthy, gutted NO secondary) and domination from Myles Garrett (injured/weak NO tackles). 

I'm passing on BAL/PIT. Always tight rivalry game that could easily hinge on some in-game injury or suspect calls (as you suggested). However, I'm not comfortable with the recent Russell Wilson hype and could see him fade a bit, not unlike Justin Fields' early-season rise and fall. Just a hunch - not bettable just yet.

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PIT, IND win SU.

LAC, ATL, NYJ win in blowouts.

Feeling TB and HOU covers.

Happy hunting, gentlemen.

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@Baird 

You got lucky with KC - I got lucky with TB. I'll take it, but - honestly - I stuck with my "TB is still undervalued" angle that had been profitable all season one week too long. SF should have won that game by double digits. I still think the Bucs could be a thorn in other teams' sides down the stretch, but I'm off them for a while (especially with the Wirfs injury).

SF looks poised to get a lather going, but I still don't believe they're quite what they're cracked up to be. Placekicker is a serious problem, the right side of their O-line is weak and that defensive depth chart is thoroughly mediocre beyond Warner and Bosa. They feel like a playoff upset victim waiting to happen.

IND was my least-confident play. I knew there was a good chance that Flacco may have already fallen off the cliff, and it appears he has. I mistakenly ignored that hunch while leaning too hard into the BUF look-ahead angle. BUF is just so well-coached. McDermott/Allen seem to have a poor man's Belichick/Brady thing going where they can plug anybody into auxiliary roles and just keep rolling along.

I just flat-out whiffed on the Jets (and Cardinals). AGAIN. Both teams have been radioactive for me all year, yet I keep flushing money down those toilets. As a Jets fan, I should have known that they won't beat a decent team until it's later in the season and it's in a situation that will knock them out of draft position to finally get a franchise QB. It's just what they do.

Still not sold on ARI. Their success isn't sustainable given the talent level on that defensive depth chart. I'll die on that hill. They won't finish ahead of the 49ers or Rams, and I'll very likely be heavy on SEA in Week 12.

Yeah, Conner is RB2 on my fantasy team and I figured his numbers would begin to even out, especially with Benson inevitably getting more run regardless of game script.

Your CLE lean looks rock solid. It's common for teams to get that initial bump from an in-season coaching change, especially when the axed coach was thoroughly hated and the interim coach is a likeable rah-rah type like Pierce/Rizzi. The Saints will undoubtedly come right back down to earth. Taliese Fuaga was injured and Trevor Penning sucks in pass pro; the Falcons simply don't have rushers capable of taking advantage, but Myles Garrett will take turns on both edges and wreak havoc.

Always appreciate your input and congrats on a nice week. GL going forward.

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PIT, IND win SU.

LAC, ATL, NYJ win in blowouts.

Feeling TB and HOU covers.

Happy hunting, gentlemen.

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Baird 72 Posts (40 )
2 month(s) 4 day(s) ago

@Mr. Bitter  - good call on TB/HOU covers (even w Collins out). You guys were spot on w/ Ind for a while, but BUF is for real. I do like IND next week knowing Jets season is done. Wish I stuck to my HUGE bet idea on AZ. Oh well, teasers still came through.

Hope you made money this week. I got lucky w/ KC and lost a few on Conner. Overall +9.4 today

Looking ahead - teasing CLE 8.5 vs Saints. I looked back to Antonio Pierce in 2023 after they showed up vs NYG

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@carettirichard 

DET's coaching staff is operating at another level right now. I thought the Hutchinson injury would take the wind out of their sails...nope. I thought the Branch ejection would swing the game in GB's favor...nope. DET doesn't do excuses. Such a tough-minded team.

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@Baird 

I think BUF is most likely to be the weird one that loses. The Bills are no doubt the better team with better coaching, but the Dolphins just plain score a lot of points when Tua is under center. This is also must-win time for MIA, whereas BUF is so comfortably ahead in the AFC East that there may already be a need to manufacture motivation. The true QUESTIONABLE tags for Amari Cooper and Christian Benford are also concerning if you're on BUF.

I can't back ARI with any confidence, even with all of the O-line problems and defensive injuries for CHI. The ARI defense is just so untalented. While their 4-4 record is commendable considering their SOS, it still feels like a flimsy 4-4. That defense will start hemorrhaging points at any moment. 

Tough slate. I could go either way on most of the games this weekend. The most solid bets are ATL -3 and PHI -7.5, IMO. I'm kinda liking CLE as a home dog and definitely liking DET as a road favorite. (DET is a tough-minded team built to control the LOS, so the "Goff/dome team" angle as overblown, IMO. DET could easily dominate the trenches in what is shaping up to be a slop fest, especially with GB center Josh Myers DOUBTFUL.)

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@WFDevTeam 

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@Karensman 

IND/MIN jumped out at me too - especially with the Darrisaw injury - but I've hesitated knowing the Vikings might get Blake Cashman and T.J. Hockenson back. There's serious potential for a "last team with the ball wins" game with Flacco replacing Richardson, and it feels like I'm usually on the wrong side of those games. I saw the Richardson benching coming about the time he checked himself out of the game vs. HOU, and just went with the OVER on 45.5. Could easily clear 50, IMO.

I'm going to continue to fade the Jets until it's not profitable. Every "Which Teams Will Turn Their Season Around In The Second Half?" article I've read this week has the Jets at the top of the list, which tells me that the public still can't wrap their head around the idea that the Jets are no more than exactly what they appear to be. There's still meat on that bone.

The (hostage) situation with NYJ/Rodgers is similar to CLE/Watson was in that everything is predicated on the QB holding up his end of the bargain, otherwise everything falls apart. It doesn't matter if the Jets sign all of Rodgers' BFFs and every 2019 NFC Pro Bowler - if Rodgers is drastically compromised by age/injury (which is becoming more apparent by the week) then the season is lost, especially with Rodgers apparently resisting treatment in favor of "cayenne and water' home treatment. (Wish I was kidding.)

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@carettirichard 

Yeah, I've been here forever and I've never seen evidence of Eagles bias. It's weird that it keeps getting mentioned.

I'm guessing the rash of injuries on defense and at WR is Walt's main reason for TB's low ranking, and that's fair. Still, having the Bucs at 27 - below CLE, JAX and NO - is nuts. The Bucs have beaten DET, WAS and PHI for chrissakes. They'll likely drop their next two (KC, SF), but their schedule to close out the season is Charmin-soft. (NYG, CAR twice, LV, NO, DAL) Assuming they get Evans and a few DBs healthy for the stretch run, the Bucs are still a competitive team capable of a winning record.

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@Karensman 

Cousins is a good play. Murray has become too unpredictable.

ATL/TB has definite shootout potential, even without Godwin/Evans. The Falcons have no pass rush and no Justin Simmons means more room over the middle/downfield. I have a hunch the Bucs paste together an effective passing game with swings to R. White (he's much better in that role than as a rusher) and a ton of stuff over the middle to Otton, McMillan and maybe even Sterling Shepard. (Shepard was Mayfield's security blanket at Oklahoma. They have history.)

GL and enjoy

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@Baird 

Still love the Colts. I got them at +5.5, and - unless I'm missing something - would take them in a heartbeat at the current +4.5. I'm with Walt - IND could easily win outright.

HOU can be had up the gut, especially now with the injuries at LB and S. I'm assuming the IND coaching staff is smart enough to put designed runs for Anthony Richardson back on the menu. If so, AR and Taylor should be able to control the clock. Worse case scenario is Richardson craps the bed and gets benched for Flacco, in which case Pittman and Downs eat. Either way, the Colts should make it a game.

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@Baird 

Yeah, trends don't last forever and every game is different. I only consider trends when I've exhausted every other possible angle and all things are equal.

The Parsons/Bland news sobered me up. That, and the realization that DAL - at 3-3 - likely isn't in "must win" mode yet. That could be next week @ ATL. My initial lean just feels a week too early. Should Parsons and/or Bland return @ ATL, I'll probably be on the Cowboys.

I still think the 49ers are slightly overrated, but the Cowboys are really hurting. There was talk of Tyler Smith sticking at LT - which I liked - but it looks like DAL will continue to ride out Guyton's growing pains. Bosa could easily go nuclear on Guyton/Steele. A dominant Bosa game, a healthy dose of Jordan Mason (DAL has no answer vs. the run) and a sprinkle of Kittle should be enough for something like a 26-20 SF win.

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@Baird 

Was also surprised by no mention of Gardeck.

The ARI defense officially has no pass rush, and - no offense to Dennis Gardeck - the fact that Gardeck was the front seven defender ARI could least afford to lose shows just how little talent they have. Take away Budda Baker and that's little better than a practice squad-quality depth chart.

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UPDATE: Parsons and Bland are OUT for DAL, with Kendricks questionable. The forecast is now calling for 10-15 MPH winds, so weather shouldn't be too much of a problem. Seriously questioning my DAL pick now, especially after reading a deep dive into DAL's extreme vulnerability to outside zone running schemes. Also worried about Nick Bosa taking turns on DAL's turnstile OTs.

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@WFDevTeam 

That's what I mean. As bad as the Patriots are, that +7 at home vs. the Jets is tempting too.

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@WFDevTeam 

So Panthers over Broncos it is.

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@Mr. Football  

The Prescott Cowboys always seem to play their best when the least is expected of them, and their worst when everyone thinks they've finally turned the corner to "SB contender".

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@Karensman 

Regarding Cooper Kupp - I think the Rams are trying to maximize his trade value before the Nov. 5 deadline. Get him as healthy as possible for a high-volume showcase game tonight, then sell high. Maybe squeeze a 3rd-rounder from a slot WR-needy team like PIT or something.

Yeah, Baker Mayfield's slim MVP chances may have evaporated with the Godwin injury. Godwin's slot role is the fulcrum of Liam Coen's scheme. Huge loss. If any NFC QB will challenge Lamar Jackson/Patrick Mahomes for MVP it's probably Jared Goff at this point. Longshot though. (I'm guessing Lamar gets his third. Feels like he's on a mission.)

My favorite plays this week are IND and DAL.

I caught IND +5.5 figuring that line would tighten up once/if Jonathan Taylor and DeForest Buckner are cleared to play. Even if they don't, the HOU defense is soft up the middle and severely banged up right now, and the offense is in an awful rut without Nico Collins. IND could easily win SU.

Caught DAL +4.5. That line could tighten, too. (Bland, Parsons, Kendricks, Deebo) There's value in fading SF right now, IMO. They're still being priced closer to recent 49ers vintage than what they actually are right now. Their offense is injury-plagued, their defense is susceptible and they have a real problem at kicker. With 25-30 MPH winds in the forecast, Aubrey could give DAL a huge advantage in this one - assuming he doesn't miss the game for jury duty. 

I still like the LAC's Wild Card chances, especially once their CBs and WRs get healthy. Beyond BUF/BAL/HOU/KC, the AFC is a jumble. I think PIT and DEN will cool down and have seen no indication that Jeff Ulbrich and Aaron Rodgers are capable of turning the Jets around.

The Titans just suck. Ran Carthon is making all the wrong decisions, from letting Mike Vrabel go to overpaying for Spagnuolo scheme-specific fool's gold L'Jarius Sneed.

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At this point, a bet on CLE is a bet that the DEF/ST will score a TD or two. The offense flat-out doesn't score points. How long before Myles Garrett and company tap out?

It's like a restaurant where the line cooks are constantly getting slammed while the grossly overpaid chef does nothing but sit in his office getting hand j*bs from waitresses. Eventually the cooks are gonna lay down their spatulas and tongs and walk out.

CIN 38 CLE 12

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2 month(s) 22 day(s) ago
@Mr. Bitter: I had forgot that Baker used to be the QB for Cleveland. He was good but not great but the Browns fell in love with Watson and gave up the 'farm' to acquire him and set the franchise back for an extended period of time. Yes, Baker has improved and was having an incredible season, but he just lost his top 2 receivers which will probably kill his MVP chances. If he is as good as I think he is; he could still be a 'wager on' QB until the oddsmakers catch up.     
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At this point, a bet on CLE is a bet that the DEF/ST will score a TD or two. The offense flat-out doesn't score points. How long before Myles Garrett and company tap out?

It's like a restaurant where the line cooks are constantly getting slammed while the grossly overpaid chef does nothing but sit in his office getting hand j*bs from waitresses. Eventually the cooks are gonna lay down their spatulas and tongs and walk out.

CIN 38 CLE 12

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Name the five teams better than the Ravens.
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@Mr. Bitter 

I like that there are only four ahead of them in this week's power rankings.

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Too many QBs in the top-15. By draft day, there will likely be three top-15 QB possibilities at most; Sanders, Milroe (Anthony Richardson-type upside swing/reach) and maybe Ward.

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"This is Cleveland's Super Bowl"

Teams don't trade their best offensive weapon right before the Super Bowl.

The Bengals/Giants game was NY's Super Bowl (Daboll went for it on seemingly every 4th down), yet CIN - in a flat spot off an OT heartbreaker to BAL - still managed to cover. At 2-4, CIN is still in must-win mode while CLE is already trading vets in preparation for a post-Watson rebuild.

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
2 month(s) 27 day(s) ago

UPDATE:

On Thursday, Browns DE Za'Darius Smith was asked by a reporter about the possibility of being traded to Detroit.

"I didn't even know about it. I'm trying to stay positive; but now that you say that, Detroit might be a good look, a good feel for me...hopefully we can get a win this week and get back on the right track...But if I was to go to Detroit, I would like it"

I tell ya, these Browns seem absolutely focused like a laser on their upcoming Super Bowl vs. the Bengals.

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"This is Cleveland's Super Bowl"

Teams don't trade their best offensive weapon right before the Super Bowl.

The Bengals/Giants game was NY's Super Bowl (Daboll went for it on seemingly every 4th down), yet CIN - in a flat spot off an OT heartbreaker to BAL - still managed to cover. At 2-4, CIN is still in must-win mode while CLE is already trading vets in preparation for a post-Watson rebuild.

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@Karensman 

With you on the LAC/ARI OVER.

We know about ARI's defense, but they also happen to be the worst defense vs. explosive runs, and JK Dobbins just happens to be near the top of the league in explosive run %...with Slater and Alt now healthy. The Chargers will run at will.

On the other side, LAC are near the bottom in explosive passing plays allowed, and might be without their top 3 CBs and likely without LOLB Joey Bosa to take advantage of ARI's O-line weak link at RT. Murray is overdue an eruption. I think that 44 gets dusted.

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At this point, a bet on CLE is a bet that the DEF/ST will score a TD or two. The offense flat-out doesn't score points. How long before Myles Garrett and company tap out?

It's like a restaurant where the line cooks are constantly getting slammed while the grossly overpaid chef does nothing but sit in his office getting hand j*bs from waitresses. Eventually the cooks are gonna lay down their spatulas and tongs and walk out.

CIN 38 CLE 12

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@raindoggg 

Waitress shaming. Tsk tsk. DO. BETTER.

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At this point, a bet on CLE is a bet that the DEF/ST will score a TD or two. The offense flat-out doesn't score points. How long before Myles Garrett and company tap out?

It's like a restaurant where the line cooks are constantly getting slammed while the grossly overpaid chef does nothing but sit in his office getting hand j*bs from waitresses. Eventually the cooks are gonna lay down their spatulas and tongs and walk out.

CIN 38 CLE 12

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
2 month(s) 27 day(s) ago

@Karensman 

Not a comedian, just find humor to be a more fun and effective way of making a point than the usual antagonistic dialogue seen online.

Baker Mayfield is the QB I'm talking about. CLE did him dirty upon signing Watson.

Mayfield is the best QB in the NFC right now. Mahomes and Allen are commonly at the top of MVP race lists, but Mayfield has been more productive by every metric. I get that there's more to winning the MVP than raw numbers, but check this out:

Mayfield leads the NFL in TD passes (15) by three. (Mahomes has 10 TD passes, Allen has 6.)

Mayfield is 4th in the NFL in completion % at 70.9. (Mahomes 69.4, Allen 62.8)

Mayfield is 2nd in the NFL in QBR. (109.4, just behind Joe Burrow's 110.2 - Mahomes 88.9, Allen 106.8)

But what about the stuff Mahomes and Allen can do with their legs/off-platform?

Mayfield is averaging 6.5 Rushing YPC, with 2 rushing TDs. (Lamar Jackson is averaging 6.3 YPC with 2 TD, Allen 5.1 YPC, Mahomes 3.6 YPC. Mayfield is behind only Kyler Murray's ridiculous 8.7 in YPC)

Mayfield's stats aren't just empty calories. He's coming up big in clutch moments and winning games, often despite an injury-wrecked defense and ineffective running game. It's not a fluke - his improvement over the last two seasons has been easily observable. Basically, his career arc is the direct opposite of Watson's, adding one more to the scroll of reasons the Watson signing has been catastrophic for the Browns and made them an unwagerable team.

Sorry, but I'm hoping Flacco starts. Got Josh Downs FLEXing on my fantasy team. Looks like it'll be Richardson though. GL on your end.

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At this point, a bet on CLE is a bet that the DEF/ST will score a TD or two. The offense flat-out doesn't score points. How long before Myles Garrett and company tap out?

It's like a restaurant where the line cooks are constantly getting slammed while the grossly overpaid chef does nothing but sit in his office getting hand j*bs from waitresses. Eventually the cooks are gonna lay down their spatulas and tongs and walk out.

CIN 38 CLE 12

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@Karensman I think he's a waitress actually.  
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At this point, a bet on CLE is a bet that the DEF/ST will score a TD or two. The offense flat-out doesn't score points. How long before Myles Garrett and company tap out?

It's like a restaurant where the line cooks are constantly getting slammed while the grossly overpaid chef does nothing but sit in his office getting hand j*bs from waitresses. Eventually the cooks are gonna lay down their spatulas and tongs and walk out.

CIN 38 CLE 12

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Karensman 26 Posts (11 )
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@Mr. Bitter: I'm short on time so I have to make this quick but are you a comedian or joke writer for one ? Not only is your analysis very informative but I spilled my coffee this morning laughing because it was hilarious. I have one quick question though : who is the QB that Cleveland kicked to the curb that is a candidate for MVP ? Are you talking Flacco ? BYW, I'm hoping that the Colts go back to Richardson this week. 
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@Droford 

I loled.

Patriots, 4 units (loss)

Raiders, 3 units (loss)

Panthers, 5 units (loss)

Jets, 8 units (loss)

"I don't know what I did to deserve this horrible luck, but it's been killing us since the beginning of last season. if anyone has any ideas on how to reverse my fortune, please let me know!"

It's almost like directionless, crappy teams with crappy coaches and crappy QBs tend to pile up penalties and turnovers and stuff. It's crazy.

My suggestion to Walt to recoup those losses is to back the Browns because the ghost of Nick Chubb might play. He'll surely hit the ground limping behind Michael Dunn and Zak Zinter into a CIN D-line that's finally fully healthy after returning half it's rotation from injury over the last few weeks. It doesn't matter that the Bengals will stack the box because Deshaun Watson has no viable weapons and can't throw a rock into the ocean anyway. It's Nick Chubb!

Also, CIN is 2-4 and must win to keep playoff hopes alive. Joe Burrow and the Bengals have been down this road before, having overcome slow starts to make two recent AFC Championship games and nearly making the playoffs behind Jake Freakin' Browning. So there's no doubt CIN will come out flat against a CLE squad that's gotta be totally fired up after scoring that one offensive TD three weeks ago and trading away their only reliable offensive weapon.

Also also, Watson is the worst QB in the NFL and hated by his teammates, but will remain the starter by ownership decree. Meanwhile, the CLE QB that teammates actually liked that was kicked to the curb in favor of Watson is now arguably the best QB in the NFC and a fringe MVP candidate. Nothing but good vibes in Cleveland! The Browns are pumped and will totally beat the Bengals, who have nothing to play for because Nick Chubb and CIN/CLE home/road history overdue to even out! Easy money!

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@Karensman 

I don't think that Amari Cooper was ever really a game-changer. Like Walt said, his value lies in route-running/efficiency/reliability; a Henry Ellard/Isaac Bruce-type that remains an effective starter even at 33-34 years old. I don't think he's slipped this season - I think he was just done with waving at Watson's inaccurate passes. (He was visibly frustrated the last few games.)

Reliability is exactly what Josh Allen needs at WR. It was good of CLE to trade Cooper to a contender that will feed him properly. It was also a clear indication that they know the season is lost. Laying cabbage on a team that has packed it in and is led by a very expensive Zach Wilson just doesn't seem like a good idea. DEF/ST TDs aren't going to happen every week.

I shudder to think what the CLE offense will look like now. A million Jerry Jeudy wind sprints broken up by the occasional dropped pass I guess. Elijah Moore...I don't even bother to check if he's active or inactive during DFS research anymore because it really doesn't matter. The Browns better hope Njoku stays healthy. (He won't. The downside of being an Adonis is that you're also a pulled muscle waiting to happen.)

What you said about recognizing and getting ahead of the curve on teams that are improving/trending in the right direction is such an important aspect of betting. Foundational, really. I always try to sniff out the dog with a sustainable plan/direction vs. the directionless favorite.

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The CLE offense hasn't scored 20 points or reached 300 yards in any game this season. The offense has scored once in it's last 29 drives. Until Watson is benched, the Browns ARE crappy.
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"Deshaun Watson just played his best game of the season"

Watson had 47 yards at halftime and didn't lead a TD drive in the game. Again. His QBR was 34.6, somehow his 2nd highest of the season.

That 11-for-11 3rd-quarter completion streak was just fluky momentum-riding from the Myles Garrett/Rodney McCloud blocked FG/TD that made the halftime score 10-10 instead of PHI up 13-3...and possibly halftime locker room threats from Garrett, who is likely tired of the defense carrying the team.

"Watson had both of his starting tackles on the field for the first time all season"

Like it matters. Watson still took 5 sacks and 10 knockdowns. He's taken 5+ sacks in 4 of 6 starts and 31 sacks this season; 10 more than the next highest number. He took 4 sacks p/game last season with a healthy interior O-line and Wills Jr. in the lineup. He hasn't accounted for even 200 yards or more than one TD in any game this season.

Wills Jr. sucks. He has since his rookie season. He had two false start penalties (including 4th-and-goal) and a 42.4 PFF grade vs. PHI. This is typical Wills Jr. stuff when he's not injured. He was PFF's 56th-ranked OT last season. (51.3)

Conklin (57.9 PFF) is a shell of his former self, just as high-mileage Nick Chubb will assuredly be when he returns from a horrific knee injury and has to run behind the likes of Michael Dunn and Zac Zinter (41.6 PFF).

Fun stats:

The CLE offense (13.5 PPG) is last in the NFL by every imaginable metric, including a 13.8% 3rd-down conversion rate. The offense hasn't scored in it's last 29 drives.

Through six games, Watson is last in the NFL in EPA, QBR, sacks taken and pocket success rate. (Behind Will Levis, mind you.) His pocket success rate (33.3%) is ahead of only David Carr, Josh Rosen, Akili Smith, Blaine Gabbert and JaMarcus Russell this millennium.

Since 2006, of 566 passers graded through weeks 1-6, Watson is ranked:

QBR - 558th

Yards p/drop back - 565th

1st Down Rate - 566th

Three seasons into his 5-year contract, Watson has never thrown for 300 yards and has accounted for 2+ TDs twice.

The Watson signing was a catastrophic blunder and his coaches and teammates know it. (Amari Cooper has 100% checked out.) Watson is absolutely broken and I'm not sure if Anthony Munoz and Jon Ogden would make a difference at this point. Until Watson is benched, this is a bottom-5 team.

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The Bills had as many penalties as the Jets. Tyler Bass missed a FG and an XP.

BUF has an injury-depleted defense, a hodgepodge of crap like Mack Hollins and Curtis Samuel at WR and a backup RB, yet would have beat the Jets by double digits on the road if not for a Hail Mary.

Risk/reward offseason signings (Mike Williams, Tyron Smith, Haason Reddick, Javon Kinlaw) that the Jets were counting on to patch up weaknesses along the starting lineup have been more detriment than asset. 

The Jets are already on their second HC for chrissake. Ulbrich seemed in over his head vs. BUF. So NY replaced one "good DC, shouldn't be a HC" with another one. Wonderful. 

The Jets shouldn't be in the top-15 right now, let alone the top-10.

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The injury report confusion mentioned in the IND/TEN write-up is becoming too common. It's getting old. I get that teams manipulate the injury report to create uncertainty for their opponents, but you'd think the league would want to minimize uncertainty for bettors/fantasy players considering how huge those markets are to the NFL's financial success. The league has to figure out a way to tighten this up.

@Walt

You're overestimating the impact Wills Jr. and Conklin might have on what's going on in CLE. Wills isn't very good and Conklin is an aging, walking surgery scar who's likely washed. Lack of continuity on the O-line is obviously going to be an issue for any team, but the performance drop off from Wills Jr./Conklin to James Hudson III/Dawand Jones hasn't been the problem it's made out to be. The problem is Deshaun Watson. Don't feel like a noob for fading CLE; the noob thing would be to assume Watson will suddenly do anything but suck.

That said, the +9 worries me. This could easily be the game where the Browns get behind a few scores early and finally yank Watson for Winston. Winston is obviously no savior, but he can fling it and provide enough spark for a backdoor.

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The Jets shouldn't sniff the top ten. I was a cautiously optimistic fan going into this season, but only under the assumptions that we'd finally have a relatively injury-free season, Haason Reddick would be signed, the run defense would improve, and Rodgers wasn't washed and the offense would gel by this point. None of that has happened, and assuming any of it will looks like a bad bet at this point.

Also: The Jets are poorly coached. They're inconsistent and unfocused, and have given Rodgers too much influence over the offensive scheme. A team that gets the Broncos at home on ten days rest only to lay an egg shouldn't be in the top ten.

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EARLY GAME STUFF:

NO +2.5   I liked ATL -1.5, but the one-point bump in a game for which I have no solid feel has me spooked. The Saints have a battered O-line, but so do the Falcons. (Storm Norton vs. Carl Granderson could be a serious problem for ATL.) I could see one of those silly Taysom Hill-fueled Saints Ws here just as easily as a Younghoe Koo walk-off FG. Taking the points.

CIN -4.5   I'm wondering if the Bengals are broken and should be faded until we see evidence of the switch being flipped. I'm very tempted to get out ahead of that possibility here.

LAR +3   Coaching mismatch and another Kyren Williams smash spot.

GB -2.5   Jordan Love is an assassin vs. the blitz. I'm counting on negligible rust from Love, and for Sam Darnold to start showing signs of turning back into a pumpkin.

HOU -5.5   The Jags might come out with a little fire in their bellies and keep it close in the first half behind a healthy dose of Etienne, but HOU will eventually pull away with a 2nd half air show. There's also a strong possibility that JAX should simply be faded until Pederson is canned.

IND +2.5   Going contrarian here. In a bizarre turn of events, Fields finally commits a few TOs and Richardson finds moderate, efficient success behind some Jonathan Taylor chain-moving.

The PIT O-line is an underrated weakness. No Kwity Paye hurts IND, but I think Laiatu Latu steps up to menace Fields into a few mistakes.

PIT wins on a Boswell FG, but only by two. Then next week they'll destroy the Cowboys.

NYJ -8   I anticipate no letdown for the Jets here. They are well-rested and focused.

The Jets and new WR2 Mike Williams are owed some good karma. This is the season they get it. With Garrett Wilson erased by Pat Surtain, Williams steps up for a 2 TD day. Breece Hall rolls for 100+ and the defense confounds Bo Nix on the way to a workmanlike 27-13 W.

TB +1   As long as Vita Vea plays and isn't too compromised by that sprained knee, I like the home dog here.

Happy hunting, fellas.

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3 month(s) 20 day(s) ago

I wanna get ahead of the curve on a couple of NFC West teams.

OVERRATED  San Francisco 49ers

Sure, the loss to the Rams was kinda fluky...but it wasn't totally fluky. I'm not as comfortable assuming Kyle Shanahan will right the ship and coast to another playoff spot as I've been in recent years.

Like Sean McVay and Bill Belichick, Shanahan's stability/system ensure the 49ers will never be an easy out. However, I'm getting the sense that this might be the season where we see injury/depth attrition become too much to overcome.

Christian McCaffrey is reportedly seeking treatment from overseas doctors for his degenerative leg issues. That can't be good. Any Shanahan team will be able to run the ball, but it was a healthy McCaffrey that became Brock Purdy's best friend and brought this offense from good to great.

Serious problems are brewing at OT. Colton McIvitz is the worst RT in the NFL (with no viable alternative on the roster), and Trent Williams is showing signs of mortality. Williams is 36 years old and the injuries are becoming more frequent. Purdy is fine with a healthy McCaffrey and airtight edge protection, but without those the house of cards collapses.

The SF defense is not as good as recent vintage. The Kyren Williams explosion was no fluke.

This isn't that foundational Bosa/D.J. Jones/Buckner/Armstead D-line with high-quality depth like Arden Key, Charles Omenihu, Javon Kinlaw, Dee Ford, etc., rotating in. With the Hargrove injury, the current D-line is just Bosa and some JAGS, with subpar depth. With Dre Greenlaw's injury shaping up to be a season-long issue, this is a mediocre unit beyond Bosa and Warner.

UNDERRATED  Seattle Seahawks

Many assume that SEA's 3-0 record is just fattening up on cupcakes - and that's fair - but I'm guessing that assumption is wrong.

First of all, recent SEA teams would have lost one of those games. Pete Carroll's schemes and rah-rah act had grown stale. The new regime is fresh and innovative. I'm probably leaning too much on the "good vibe" in Seattle, but I think it'll prove sustainable as the Grubb/Macdonald schemes fully click.

I'm predicting that in a few weeks the Grubb/Geno Smith marriage will join O'Connell/Darnold in the "reclamation QB renaissance" narrative. The SEA offense is ready for takeoff, and once Walker is healthy they'll be humming. If RT Abraham Lucas can ever get healthy, they'll really be cooking with gas.

As a Jets fan, I'll NEVER predict a Geno Smith-led team to contend for the SB, but 10 or 11 wins and a surprise run to the NFC Championship are on the table for SEA.

gt;t;

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I wanna get ahead of the curve on a couple of NFC West teams.

OVERRATED  San Francisco 49ers

Sure, the loss to the Rams was kinda fluky...but it wasn't totally fluky. I'm not as comfortable assuming Kyle Shanahan will right the ship and coast to another playoff spot as I've been in recent years.

Like Sean McVay and Bill Belichick, Shanahan's stability/system ensure the 49ers will never be an easy out. However, I'm getting the sense that this might be the season where we see injury/depth attrition become too much to overcome.

Christian McCaffrey is reportedly seeking treatment from overseas doctors for his degenerative leg issues. That can't be good. Any Shanahan team will be able to run the ball, but it was a healthy McCaffrey that became Brock Purdy's best friend and brought this offense from good to great.

Serious problems are brewing at OT. Colton McIvitz is the worst RT in the NFL (with no viable alternative on the roster), and Trent Williams is showing signs of mortality. Williams is 36 years old and the injuries are becoming more frequent. Purdy is fine with a healthy McCaffrey and airtight edge protection, but without those the house of cards collapses.

The SF defense is not as good as recent vintage. The Kyren Williams explosion was no fluke.

This isn't that foundational Bosa/D.J. Jones/Buckner/Armstead D-line with high-quality depth like Arden Key, Charles Omenihu, Javon Kinlaw, Dee Ford, etc., rotating in. With the Hargrove injury, the current D-line is just Bosa and some JAGS, with subpar depth. With Dre Greenlaw's injury shaping up to be a season-long issue, this is a mediocre unit beyond Bosa and Warner.

UNDERRATED  Seattle Seahawks

Many assume that SEA's 3-0 record is just fattening up on cupcakes - and that's fair - but I'm guessing that assumption is wrong.

First of all, recent SEA teams would have lost one of those games. Pete Carroll's schemes and rah-rah act had grown stale. The new regime is fresh and innovative. I'm probably leaning too much on the "good vibe" in Seattle, but I think it'll prove sustainable as the Grubb/Macdonald schemes fully click.

I'm predicting that in a few weeks the Grubb/Geno Smith marriage will join O'Connell/Darnold in the "reclamation QB renaissance" narrative. The SEA offense is ready for takeoff, and once Walker is healthy they'll be humming. If RT Abraham Lucas can ever get healthy, they'll really be cooking with gas.

As a Jets fan, I'll NEVER predict a Geno Smith-led team to contend for the SB, but 10 or 11 wins and a surprise run to the NFC Championship are on the table for SEA.

gt;t;

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
3 month(s) 16 day(s) ago

@WFDevTeam 

I'm guessing they lose @DET Monday night. Just too many injuries along that defensive front 7 right now. But Week 5 at home vs. the Giants should be a get-right spot, and that will be the first of four home games in their next five going into their bye week, with a very winnable @ATL the only away game. SEA could easily be 7-2 going into their Week 10 bye.

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@SadisticNobility 

Gotta disagree on Jones. He sucks. He can't complete a pass 20+ yards. He was just doing more check-down compiling last night, only without his usual handful of TOs. He never truly threatens the secondary.

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I wanna get ahead of the curve on a couple of NFC West teams.

OVERRATED  San Francisco 49ers

Sure, the loss to the Rams was kinda fluky...but it wasn't totally fluky. I'm not as comfortable assuming Kyle Shanahan will right the ship and coast to another playoff spot as I've been in recent years.

Like Sean McVay and Bill Belichick, Shanahan's stability/system ensure the 49ers will never be an easy out. However, I'm getting the sense that this might be the season where we see injury/depth attrition become too much to overcome.

Christian McCaffrey is reportedly seeking treatment from overseas doctors for his degenerative leg issues. That can't be good. Any Shanahan team will be able to run the ball, but it was a healthy McCaffrey that became Brock Purdy's best friend and brought this offense from good to great.

Serious problems are brewing at OT. Colton McIvitz is the worst RT in the NFL (with no viable alternative on the roster), and Trent Williams is showing signs of mortality. Williams is 36 years old and the injuries are becoming more frequent. Purdy is fine with a healthy McCaffrey and airtight edge protection, but without those the house of cards collapses.

The SF defense is not as good as recent vintage. The Kyren Williams explosion was no fluke.

This isn't that foundational Bosa/D.J. Jones/Buckner/Armstead D-line with high-quality depth like Arden Key, Charles Omenihu, Javon Kinlaw, Dee Ford, etc., rotating in. With the Hargrove injury, the current D-line is just Bosa and some JAGS, with subpar depth. With Dre Greenlaw's injury shaping up to be a season-long issue, this is a mediocre unit beyond Bosa and Warner.

UNDERRATED  Seattle Seahawks

Many assume that SEA's 3-0 record is just fattening up on cupcakes - and that's fair - but I'm guessing that assumption is wrong.

First of all, recent SEA teams would have lost one of those games. Pete Carroll's schemes and rah-rah act had grown stale. The new regime is fresh and innovative. I'm probably leaning too much on the "good vibe" in Seattle, but I think it'll prove sustainable as the Grubb/Macdonald schemes fully click.

I'm predicting that in a few weeks the Grubb/Geno Smith marriage will join O'Connell/Darnold in the "reclamation QB renaissance" narrative. The SEA offense is ready for takeoff, and once Walker is healthy they'll be humming. If RT Abraham Lucas can ever get healthy, they'll really be cooking with gas.

As a Jets fan, I'll NEVER predict a Geno Smith-led team to contend for the SB, but 10 or 11 wins and a surprise run to the NFC Championship are on the table for SEA.

gt;t;

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@Mr. Bitter 

I'll be looking out for Seattle then

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@Walt

You've gotta let the TEN dream die. It wouldn't matter if TEN had the '85 Bears defense; backing Will Levis will leave bettors wearing barrel-and-suspenders. 

TEN's defense isn't great. It's just okay. Now Chidobe Awuzie is out and Jeffery Simmons is questionable. Tyler Huntley is likely to start for MIA and I guaranfu*kintee you he outperforms Levis on the way to a watching-paint-dry MIA win.

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@Mr. Football  

Love is blind.

The Cowboys are in trouble. The league-wide safety shell trend is making running the ball/stopping the run more important than we've seen in decades. DAL can do neither. Like, not at all.

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I don't think it's fair to say that the Bucs were exposed vs. the Broncos. Coming off the big win vs. DET and with a big game vs. PHI ahead, Week 3 was a classic trap game. The Bucs were also rolling with a gutted defense.

Not saying the Bucs are SB contenders, but they're definitely capable of winning the NFC South. Mayfield is (somehow) the best QB in the division, the offense will improve as Goedeke gets healthy and Bucky Irving settles in at RB1, and the defense will be fine once Vea, Kancey, Winfield are healthy.

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@biskit52250 

He has the Vikings at #4. Can't hate them that much.

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3 month(s) 22 day(s) ago

The Ravens aren't "bad". Yeah, they're experiencing some growing pains as the reconfigured O-line establishes continuity, but the Ravens under Harbaugh have earned the benefit of the doubt when it comes to such things. LT and C are solid, Mekari has always been serviceable when called upon, and new Gs Vorhees and Faalele have upside.

The current BAL O-line situation isn't any worse than those in the rest of the AFC North.

CINs mediocre O-line regularly gets Burrow hurt,

PITs O-line is suspect, with Broderick Jones looking like a bust and Fautanu out for the season.

CLE's O-line is a mess. Jedrick Wills sucks, Conklin will never be the same, and now Wyatt Teller and underrated swing OT James Hudson are injured.

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3 month(s) 28 day(s) ago
Think maybe Drake London just isn't that good.
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@mike-gaughan 

Happy JK Dobbins owner here. I would make that move. I'm currently contemplating dropping Chuba Hubbard to pick up Gus Edwards from waivers as a premium handcuff. With Dobbins' injury history and Harbaugh's offensive philosophy, Edwards could bang out some week-winning numbers later on this season.

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4 month(s) 2 day(s) ago

"The Bears don't have the best depth at CB"

Huh? Jaylon Johnson is the best CB in the NFC. Tyrique Stevenson is emerging as a high-quality, ball-hawking CB2 and ideal complement to Johnson. Slot CB Kyler Gordon grades as one of the best in the league. CB4 Terell Smith would be CB2 for some teams. None are older than 25.

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I get that the Browns have talent, but I think you're underrating what a massive albatross Deshaun Watson and his contract are for the organization.

Performance-wise, Watson has clearly checked out after getting paid, and with the new sexual assault accusations it seems just a matter of time before he's benched and/or released. That's demoralizing, season-killing stuff, and Joe Flacco is no longer around to give CLE a short-term boost.

Chubb and Conklin will probably never be the same, and Jedrick Wills hasn't been good since his rookie season. With the Njoku injury, points will be hard to come by and we could see a very frustrated Browns defense before long. The whole situation in CLE points more toward a spiral than improvement.

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4 month(s) 2 day(s) ago

@chuckster 

I just think the NFL is all about getting it right at QB and Walt will grow old waiting for CLE, CAR and TEN to turn the corner unless those teams make a change under center.

The QB situations in CLE and CAR are catastrophic when factoring in the investment prices. I mean, the Panthers passed on C.J. Stroud and basically traded the foundation of a playoff team to CHI to draft a QB that is simply too small and plays scared. Walt says the Panthers are bound to improve because they upgraded the O-line; so what? What good is an improved run-blocking unit when the opposing defense can just stack the box because they know the QB is atrocious?

Watson, Young nd Levis suck, and every member of their organizations top-to-bottom know that. There's a ripple effect. CLE, CAR and TEN are just spinning their wheels and should be auto-fades until those QBs are benched.

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I get that the Browns have talent, but I think you're underrating what a massive albatross Deshaun Watson and his contract are for the organization.

Performance-wise, Watson has clearly checked out after getting paid, and with the new sexual assault accusations it seems just a matter of time before he's benched and/or released. That's demoralizing, season-killing stuff, and Joe Flacco is no longer around to give CLE a short-term boost.

Chubb and Conklin will probably never be the same, and Jedrick Wills hasn't been good since his rookie season. With the Njoku injury, points will be hard to come by and we could see a very frustrated Browns defense before long. The whole situation in CLE points more toward a spiral than improvement.

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
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I get that the Browns have talent, but I think you're underrating what a massive albatross Deshaun Watson and his contract are for the organization.

Performance-wise, Watson has clearly checked out after getting paid, and with the new sexual assault accusations it seems just a matter of time before he's benched and/or released. That's demoralizing, season-killing stuff, and Joe Flacco is no longer around to give CLE a short-term boost.

Chubb and Conklin will probably never be the same, and Jedrick Wills hasn't been good since his rookie season. With the Njoku injury, points will be hard to come by and we could see a very frustrated Browns defense before long. The whole situation in CLE points more toward a spiral than improvement.

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
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@chuckster 

Plenty of people have rough upbringings AND rough adulthoods yet still manage to not be complete assholes.

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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
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I get that the Browns have talent, but I think you're underrating what a massive albatross Deshaun Watson and his contract are for the organization.

Performance-wise, Watson has clearly checked out after getting paid, and with the new sexual assault accusations it seems just a matter of time before he's benched and/or released. That's demoralizing, season-killing stuff, and Joe Flacco is no longer around to give CLE a short-term boost.

Chubb and Conklin will probably never be the same, and Jedrick Wills hasn't been good since his rookie season. With the Njoku injury, points will be hard to come by and we could see a very frustrated Browns defense before long. The whole situation in CLE points more toward a spiral than improvement.

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chuckster 363 Posts (317 )
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@Mr. Bitter:  Totally agree on your assessment of the Browns potential downward spiral.  Watson clearly has/is? walking the path to personal/self destruction. It has happened to a lot of athletes across the sports spectrum and seems to be directly attributed to a rough/horrible upbringing.  Some of these gifted athletes find a way to overcome,  sadly,  many can't/won't.
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Mr. Bitter 398 Posts (436 )
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Ewers > Sanders
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